From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: Should Inline be private in the private part of a package spec?
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:56:07 +0200
Date: 2012-08-24T11:56:07+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50374fb7$0$6584$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <k1713s$ovc$1@munin.nbi.dk>
On 24.08.12 06:48, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Georg Bauhaus" <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de> wrote in message
> news:50361675$0$6582$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net...
>> On 23.08.12 12:13, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>> Ada is not proposed for exchanging structured data.
>>
>> XML is proposed for exchanging data between unknown endpoints,
>> for reasons similar to those that have produced Ada and its syntax.
>
> Data should never be exchanged with "unknown endpoints", because there is
> then no way to judge the reliability of the data. (And there are lots of
> people who would like to corrupt it.)
The argument is bogus, because it assumes "known endpoints" send more
reliable data just because they are known. If you know the origin,
you still do not know what will be input.
If you assume criminals, than knowledge of criminal techniques
forces all I/O to be written assuming counterfeit.
Examples of failing security setups are readily available.
This has little to do with deciphering Ada.Streams or deciphering
XML documents.
The argument is also bogus if it implies that programs should
never read any input unless they know with certainty what will
be input. This excludes research programs that must try find
signals in noise, search patterns in the chaos, or look for
needles in the hay stack.
> Ergo, XML is proposed to solve a problem which simply should never arise.
More like a generalization of a very special case...
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2012-08-03 13:30 Should Inline be private in the private part of a package spec? Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-03 14:34 ` Martin Krischik
2012-08-03 15:51 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-08-03 18:07 ` Robert A Duff
2012-08-06 3:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-06 14:33 ` Robert A Duff
2012-08-06 15:50 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-06 17:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-06 21:01 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-06 21:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-06 22:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-06 23:12 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-07 8:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-09 21:44 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-08 1:48 ` Shark8
2012-08-08 7:38 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-08 8:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-09 21:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-10 1:49 ` Britt
2012-08-10 3:10 ` Shark8
2012-08-10 6:00 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-10 16:34 ` Shark8
2012-08-10 22:37 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-11 3:44 ` Shark8
2012-08-11 4:42 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-13 11:53 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-08-10 7:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-10 16:45 ` Shark8
2012-08-10 17:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-10 21:35 ` Shark8
2012-08-10 22:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-11 3:27 ` Shark8
2012-08-11 5:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-11 4:48 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-11 5:12 ` Shark8
2012-08-10 17:06 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-11 0:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-11 1:57 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-13 22:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-14 2:52 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-14 14:44 ` Shark8
2012-08-14 15:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-14 22:04 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-15 7:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-15 11:08 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-15 11:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-15 15:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-15 16:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-15 16:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-15 18:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-15 20:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-21 22:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-22 12:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-22 13:10 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-22 21:55 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-23 7:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 9:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-24 4:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-24 10:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-24 15:07 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-24 22:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-15 21:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-16 7:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-16 11:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-16 12:13 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-16 12:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-16 18:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-16 19:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-16 22:00 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-17 18:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-18 6:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-18 8:05 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-18 21:02 ` Shark8
2012-08-18 21:52 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-19 1:34 ` Shark8
2012-08-19 13:03 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-18 23:33 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-20 13:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-20 14:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-20 16:22 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-20 18:42 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-20 19:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-20 20:27 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-21 11:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-21 13:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-21 14:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-21 15:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-21 15:29 ` Pascal Obry
2012-08-21 19:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-21 16:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-21 19:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-21 21:35 ` Pascal Obry
2012-08-21 23:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-21 23:37 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-22 21:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-21 23:54 ` Shark8
2012-08-22 6:14 ` Pascal Obry
2012-08-23 2:29 ` Shark8
2012-08-22 7:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-22 13:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-22 14:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-22 16:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-22 17:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-22 19:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-22 20:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-22 20:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 7:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-23 8:08 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 8:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-23 9:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 10:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-23 11:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 12:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-23 0:12 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-24 4:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-24 7:37 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-24 10:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-24 22:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-22 21:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 7:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-23 8:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 10:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-23 11:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 12:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-23 13:31 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-23 17:42 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 17:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 11:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 11:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-23 12:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-08-23 17:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-24 4:48 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-24 9:56 ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2012-08-21 16:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-21 22:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-14 15:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-14 20:30 ` Shark8
2012-08-15 11:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-15 17:18 ` Shark8
2012-08-14 15:19 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-14 20:41 ` Shark8
2012-08-14 23:59 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-15 0:50 ` Shark8
2012-08-15 3:02 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-14 22:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-14 23:55 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-15 6:35 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-21 22:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-22 0:15 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-22 22:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-23 0:00 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-23 7:02 ` Niklas Holsti
2012-08-24 4:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-13 12:03 ` Project files (Was: Should Inline be private in the private part of a package spec?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-08-13 22:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-10 8:12 ` Should Inline be private in the private part of a package spec? Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-06 23:09 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-07 9:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-07 13:09 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-07 13:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-07 14:06 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-09 22:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-07 13:45 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-07 13:55 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-07 14:12 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-09 21:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-07 0:25 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-07 10:01 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-07 13:21 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-07 17:28 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-07 19:26 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-07 13:34 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-07 17:31 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-07 13:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-08-07 17:47 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-09 22:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-10 14:26 ` Simon Wright
2012-08-09 21:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-09 22:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-09 22:29 ` Shark8
2012-08-10 0:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-08-12 21:35 ` Robert A Duff
2012-08-03 16:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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