From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Ada bench : count words
Date: 23 Mar 2005 17:33:23 -0500
Date: 2005-03-23T17:33:23-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccpsxqro0c.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: qetH5JMsyrUV@eisner.encompasserve.org
Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:
> In article <wccvf7jdboy.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>, Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> writes:
>
> > Text_IO is pretty broken, from both a usability perspective and an
> > efficiency perspective. I normally avoid it, and use pragma Import on
> > the C routines (open, read, etc). Suitably wrapped in a clean
> > interface, of course.
>
> Do those C routines handle line lengths, page lengths, and column
> specifications ?
No.
> If not, perhaps you are looking for something different from the full
> feature set of Text_IO.
Yes, indeed. ;-)
For one thing, simple character-by-character (buffered) input is
inefficient using Text_IO.
I don't usually want to do line-by-line input, but when I do,
the features in Text_IO are a pain. Witness the endless series
of questions from beginners about that issue in this newsgroup.
Another design flaw is that Text_IO mixes I/O with data formatting,
which should be treated as two separate issues.
> But how Text_IO performs from an efficiency standpoint should depend
> upon the particular implementation.
Well, in part, but *every* implementation must deal with those column
numbers, and that's a waste for applications that don't need it.
>... If you have a file system that
> does not maintain record boundaries, then Text_IO must do more work.
> But _something_ must handle the differences between various text file
> formats (Stream-LF, Stream-CR, Stream-CRLF and out-of-band record
> breaks).
True. It's a shame the computer industry can't standardize on one
method. I suspect it's impossible to design a method that is maximally
efficient and maximally portable and maximally convenient in this
regard.
> The C routines with which I am familiar (VMS) seem to force the user
> to convert everything into a stream of bytes and then the C routines
> convert it back into the actual file format (like those listed above).
> _That_ is my idea of inefficient.
I'm not a big fan of Record Management Services, by the way. ;-)
- Bob
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2005-03-19 16:22 Ada bench Pascal Obry
2005-03-19 16:55 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-19 21:32 ` Michael Bode
2005-03-20 9:20 ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-20 9:39 ` Michael Bode
2005-03-20 11:16 ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-20 12:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-20 12:32 ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-21 1:42 ` (see below)
2005-03-21 2:24 ` (see below)
2005-03-21 15:00 ` (see below)
2005-03-21 3:54 ` Ed Falis
2005-03-21 12:20 ` Jeff C
2005-03-21 15:18 ` (see below)
2005-03-21 15:24 ` (see below)
2005-03-21 18:56 ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-21 21:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-03-21 22:14 ` Ed Falis
2005-03-21 18:07 ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-20 10:11 ` Adrian Knoth
2005-03-20 10:30 ` Michael Bode
2005-03-21 23:27 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-03-22 1:16 ` Ada bench : count words Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 10:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 11:57 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 12:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 12:47 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 13:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 13:28 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 16:48 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 17:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-27 20:14 ` jtg
2005-03-27 21:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-28 19:54 ` jtg
2005-03-28 20:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-29 12:40 ` jtg
2005-03-29 13:00 ` [OT] " Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-29 13:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-29 15:53 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-29 16:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
[not found] ` <k33j419lgei1ui89s26o1dlr9ccf1qe1hd@4ax.com>
2005-04-11 23:04 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-29 13:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-04-01 20:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-01 20:18 ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-22 12:53 ` Marius Amado Alves
[not found] ` <f205219321dd18dba878fab16b7cb50d@netcabo.pt>
2005-03-22 13:12 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-23 16:58 ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-22 13:58 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 16:30 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 16:41 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-22 17:39 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 18:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 19:08 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-22 18:34 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-03-22 19:32 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 20:04 ` tmoran
2005-03-23 16:55 ` Isaac Gouy
[not found] ` <1820eab50b57f2fe1c4e8e50bb0f4fe5@netcabo.pt>
2005-03-22 22:49 ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-22 22:58 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 23:27 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-03-23 22:33 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2005-03-24 5:02 ` Larry Kilgallen
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2005-03-25 1:34 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 12:22 ` Jeff C
2005-03-23 16:48 ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-23 17:06 ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-22 19:49 ` tmoran
2005-03-22 21:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-23 0:16 ` tmoran
2005-03-23 7:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 22:33 ` Marius Amado Alves
[not found] ` <00b362390273e6c04844dd4ff1885ee0@netcabo.pt>
2005-03-23 15:09 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-23 19:00 ` tmoran
2005-03-23 19:30 ` tmoran
2005-03-23 21:38 ` tmoran
2005-03-25 7:30 ` Simon Wright
2005-03-25 9:38 ` tmoran
2005-03-25 16:20 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-25 22:18 ` Ada:The High Performance Language for Hyperthreaded and Multicore CPUs; was " tmoran
2005-03-23 19:54 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-23 20:39 ` Ada bench : word frequency Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-23 21:26 ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-24 1:24 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-24 17:23 ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-24 19:52 ` Martin Dowie
2005-04-11 15:11 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-24 20:16 ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-24 22:54 ` tmoran
2005-04-11 15:38 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-24 21:18 ` Gautier Write-only
2005-04-11 15:32 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-04-11 23:56 ` Robert A Duff
2005-04-28 4:04 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-28 20:40 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-03-23 21:38 ` Ada bench : count words tmoran
2005-03-24 20:19 ` tmoran
2005-03-24 21:00 ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-24 22:54 ` tmoran
2005-03-30 16:08 ` Andre
2005-03-30 16:36 ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-22 22:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-23 7:46 ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-23 7:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-23 13:38 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 7:05 ` Ada bench Pascal Obry
2005-04-07 20:59 ` David Sauvage
2005-04-07 23:40 ` David Sauvage
2005-04-08 17:11 ` Pascal Obry
2005-04-08 17:39 ` tmoran
2005-04-08 18:49 ` David Sauvage
2005-04-18 19:14 ` David Sauvage
2005-04-19 16:43 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-19 23:22 ` David Sauvage
2005-04-20 0:49 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-20 4:22 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-20 21:24 ` David Sauvage
2005-04-20 23:06 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-20 9:41 ` Pascal Obry
2005-04-20 11:44 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-20 14:47 ` Pascal Obry
2005-04-20 19:26 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-20 19:34 ` Pascal Obry
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