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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada bench : count words
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:34:45 +0100
Date: 2005-03-22T18:34:43+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1spfhtlo4ya1w.1a8leo0bqclk8.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.54.1111510113.23655.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:48:13 +0000, Marius Amado Alves wrote:

>> Get_Line does one extra line scan. So it will be inherently slower. 
>> Then it would not take any advantage of having Buffer if lines are 
>> shorter than 4K.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand. An extra scan (I assume for EOL) in addition 
> to what?

To parse the line. Get_Line scans some n-th buffer attached to the file and
copies bytes from there into your n+1th buffer until it meets EOL. I
suppose under VMS it could be otherwise, but we have what we deserve: UNIX
and Windows. After that you rescan these bytes again. This means that each
byte will be touched n+1 times.

> I don't understand why Get_Line has to be slower. I understand how a 
> naive, non-buffered, implementation can be slower. But at least when 
> reading from standard input the implementation should buffer, or cache, 
> the data, on a buffer of Item'Size or greater, and remember the 
> positions, and never read again.

Only if Get_Line were a function returning a slice referring to a system
buffer that had multiple segments with reference counting ... Forget it
(:-))

BTW, I think that this challenge is wrong because it does not filter I/O
issue out. In real-life applications it is not Text_IO (or its equivalent
in any other language) which is the bottleneck. Text_IO could be 10 times
slower and still impose no or little problems, because string processing in
the true sense, is usually 1000 times slower.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-22 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-19 16:22 Ada bench Pascal Obry
2005-03-19 16:55 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-19 21:32   ` Michael Bode
2005-03-20  9:20     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-20  9:39       ` Michael Bode
2005-03-20 11:16         ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-20 12:20           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-20 12:32             ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-21  1:42             ` (see below)
2005-03-21  2:24               ` (see below)
2005-03-21 15:00                 ` (see below)
2005-03-21  3:54               ` Ed Falis
2005-03-21 12:20                 ` Jeff C
2005-03-21 15:18                 ` (see below)
2005-03-21 15:24                   ` (see below)
2005-03-21 18:56                   ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-21 21:31                 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-03-21 22:14                   ` Ed Falis
2005-03-21 18:07               ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-20 10:11       ` Adrian Knoth
2005-03-20 10:30         ` Michael Bode
2005-03-21 23:27       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-03-22  1:16         ` Ada bench : count words Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 10:59           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 11:57             ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 12:17               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 12:47                 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 13:08                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 13:28                     ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 16:48                     ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 17:34                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2005-03-27 20:14                         ` jtg
2005-03-27 21:22                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-28 19:54                             ` jtg
2005-03-28 20:56                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-29 12:40                                 ` jtg
2005-03-29 13:00                                   ` [OT] " Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-29 13:47                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-29 15:53                                       ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-29 16:17                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
     [not found]                                         ` <k33j419lgei1ui89s26o1dlr9ccf1qe1hd@4ax.com>
2005-04-11 23:04                                           ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-29 13:47                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-04-01 20:58                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-01 20:18                                     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-22 12:53                 ` Marius Amado Alves
     [not found]                 ` <f205219321dd18dba878fab16b7cb50d@netcabo.pt>
2005-03-22 13:12                   ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-23 16:58                     ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-22 13:58                 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 16:30                   ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 16:41                     ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-22 17:39                       ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 18:59                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 19:08                         ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-22 18:34                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-03-22 19:32                     ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 20:04                       ` tmoran
2005-03-23 16:55                       ` Isaac Gouy
     [not found]                   ` <1820eab50b57f2fe1c4e8e50bb0f4fe5@netcabo.pt>
2005-03-22 22:49                     ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-22 22:58                       ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 23:27                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-03-23 22:33                     ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-24  5:02                     ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                     ` <wccpsxqro0c.fsfOrganization: LJK Software <bM40pHW6P2KW@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2005-03-25  1:34                       ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 12:22             ` Jeff C
2005-03-23 16:48               ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-23 17:06             ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-22 19:49           ` tmoran
2005-03-22 21:51             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-23  0:16               ` tmoran
2005-03-23  7:25                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 22:33             ` Marius Amado Alves
     [not found]             ` <00b362390273e6c04844dd4ff1885ee0@netcabo.pt>
2005-03-23 15:09               ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-23 19:00                 ` tmoran
2005-03-23 19:30                   ` tmoran
2005-03-23 21:38                     ` tmoran
2005-03-25  7:30                       ` Simon Wright
2005-03-25  9:38                         ` tmoran
2005-03-25 16:20                           ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-25 22:18                             ` Ada:The High Performance Language for Hyperthreaded and Multicore CPUs; was " tmoran
2005-03-23 19:54                   ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-23 20:39                     ` Ada bench : word frequency Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-23 21:26                       ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-24  1:24                         ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-24 17:23                           ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-24 19:52                           ` Martin Dowie
2005-04-11 15:11                             ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-24 20:16                           ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-24 22:54                             ` tmoran
2005-04-11 15:38                               ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-24 21:18                           ` Gautier Write-only
2005-04-11 15:32                             ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-04-11 23:56                               ` Robert A Duff
2005-04-28  4:04                       ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-28 20:40                         ` Matthew Heaney
2005-03-23 21:38                     ` Ada bench : count words tmoran
2005-03-24 20:19                   ` tmoran
2005-03-24 21:00                     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-24 22:54                       ` tmoran
2005-03-30 16:08                 ` Andre
2005-03-30 16:36                   ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-22 22:27           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-23  7:46             ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-23  7:56               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-23 13:38                 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22  7:05         ` Ada bench Pascal Obry
2005-04-07 20:59   ` David Sauvage
2005-04-07 23:40     ` David Sauvage
2005-04-08 17:11     ` Pascal Obry
2005-04-08 17:39       ` tmoran
2005-04-08 18:49       ` David Sauvage
2005-04-18 19:14       ` David Sauvage
2005-04-19 16:43         ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-19 23:22           ` David Sauvage
2005-04-20  0:49             ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-20  4:22               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-20 21:24               ` David Sauvage
2005-04-20 23:06                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-20  9:41             ` Pascal Obry
2005-04-20 11:44               ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-20 14:47                 ` Pascal Obry
2005-04-20 19:26                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-20 19:34                     ` Pascal Obry
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