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From: jtg <jtg77@poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Re: Ada bench : count words
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:14:04 +0200
Date: 2005-03-27T22:14:04+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d273so$e4v$1@korweta.task.gda.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1spfhtlo4ya1w.1a8leo0bqclk8.dlg@40tude.net>

Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> 
> BTW, I think that this challenge is wrong because it does not filter I/O
> issue out. In real-life applications it is not Text_IO (or its equivalent
> in any other language) which is the bottleneck. Text_IO could be 10 times
> slower and still impose no or little problems, because string processing in
> the true sense, is usually 1000 times slower.
> 
IMHO the challenge is OK. Look at the system commands (in UNIX). In
many cases text I/O performance is crucial. But since
existing commands are very fast, nobody even thinks about it.
Recently I had to write some simple programs in C (after years of pure
Ada) and I/O performance was my biggest problem. I compared my I/O
results with wc command and wc was substantially faster than my
pure I/O! So I downloaded
the code and looked into it. That was mess&magic. They must have
spent much time to get really fast I/O, and they had a good
reason for it.
I think that instead of blaming the challenge we must face reality:
this test indicates that existing implementation of Ada is worse than C
in pure I/O applications (like system commands). Maybe instead of
improving the program it would be better to look into the GNAT
source and improve things there. Or to notify GNAT team about the
problem. It would not only give Ada better
position in this challenge, but also speed up text I/O operations of
all the programs compiled with future versions of GNAT.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-27 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-19 16:22 Ada bench Pascal Obry
2005-03-19 16:55 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-19 21:32   ` Michael Bode
2005-03-20  9:20     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-20  9:39       ` Michael Bode
2005-03-20 11:16         ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-20 12:20           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-20 12:32             ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-21  1:42             ` (see below)
2005-03-21  2:24               ` (see below)
2005-03-21 15:00                 ` (see below)
2005-03-21  3:54               ` Ed Falis
2005-03-21 12:20                 ` Jeff C
2005-03-21 15:18                 ` (see below)
2005-03-21 15:24                   ` (see below)
2005-03-21 18:56                   ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-21 21:31                 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-03-21 22:14                   ` Ed Falis
2005-03-21 18:07               ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-20 10:11       ` Adrian Knoth
2005-03-20 10:30         ` Michael Bode
2005-03-21 23:27       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-03-22  1:16         ` Ada bench : count words Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 10:59           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 11:57             ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 12:17               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 12:47                 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 13:08                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 13:28                     ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 16:48                     ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 17:34                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-27 20:14                         ` jtg [this message]
2005-03-27 21:22                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-28 19:54                             ` jtg
2005-03-28 20:56                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-29 12:40                                 ` jtg
2005-03-29 13:00                                   ` [OT] " Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-29 13:47                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-29 15:53                                       ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-29 16:17                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
     [not found]                                         ` <k33j419lgei1ui89s26o1dlr9ccf1qe1hd@4ax.com>
2005-04-11 23:04                                           ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-29 13:47                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-04-01 20:58                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-01 20:18                                     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-22 12:53                 ` Marius Amado Alves
     [not found]                 ` <f205219321dd18dba878fab16b7cb50d@netcabo.pt>
2005-03-22 13:12                   ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-23 16:58                     ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-22 13:58                 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 16:30                   ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 16:41                     ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-22 17:39                       ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-22 18:59                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 19:08                         ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-22 18:34                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-03-22 19:32                     ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 20:04                       ` tmoran
2005-03-23 16:55                       ` Isaac Gouy
     [not found]                   ` <1820eab50b57f2fe1c4e8e50bb0f4fe5@netcabo.pt>
2005-03-22 22:49                     ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-22 22:58                       ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 23:27                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-03-23 22:33                     ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-24  5:02                     ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                     ` <wccpsxqro0c.fsfOrganization: LJK Software <bM40pHW6P2KW@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2005-03-25  1:34                       ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22 12:22             ` Jeff C
2005-03-23 16:48               ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-23 17:06             ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-22 19:49           ` tmoran
2005-03-22 21:51             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-23  0:16               ` tmoran
2005-03-23  7:25                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-22 22:33             ` Marius Amado Alves
     [not found]             ` <00b362390273e6c04844dd4ff1885ee0@netcabo.pt>
2005-03-23 15:09               ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-23 19:00                 ` tmoran
2005-03-23 19:30                   ` tmoran
2005-03-23 21:38                     ` tmoran
2005-03-25  7:30                       ` Simon Wright
2005-03-25  9:38                         ` tmoran
2005-03-25 16:20                           ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-25 22:18                             ` Ada:The High Performance Language for Hyperthreaded and Multicore CPUs; was " tmoran
2005-03-23 19:54                   ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-03-23 20:39                     ` Ada bench : word frequency Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-23 21:26                       ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-24  1:24                         ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-24 17:23                           ` Isaac Gouy
2005-03-24 19:52                           ` Martin Dowie
2005-04-11 15:11                             ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-24 20:16                           ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-24 22:54                             ` tmoran
2005-04-11 15:38                               ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-24 21:18                           ` Gautier Write-only
2005-04-11 15:32                             ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-04-11 23:56                               ` Robert A Duff
2005-04-28  4:04                       ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-28 20:40                         ` Matthew Heaney
2005-03-23 21:38                     ` Ada bench : count words tmoran
2005-03-24 20:19                   ` tmoran
2005-03-24 21:00                     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-24 22:54                       ` tmoran
2005-03-30 16:08                 ` Andre
2005-03-30 16:36                   ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-22 22:27           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-23  7:46             ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-23  7:56               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-23 13:38                 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-22  7:05         ` Ada bench Pascal Obry
2005-04-07 20:59   ` David Sauvage
2005-04-07 23:40     ` David Sauvage
2005-04-08 17:11     ` Pascal Obry
2005-04-08 17:39       ` tmoran
2005-04-08 18:49       ` David Sauvage
2005-04-18 19:14       ` David Sauvage
2005-04-19 16:43         ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-19 23:22           ` David Sauvage
2005-04-20  0:49             ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-20  4:22               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-20 21:24               ` David Sauvage
2005-04-20 23:06                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-20  9:41             ` Pascal Obry
2005-04-20 11:44               ` Matthew Heaney
2005-04-20 14:47                 ` Pascal Obry
2005-04-20 19:26                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-04-20 19:34                     ` Pascal Obry
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