From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics (why not Universities?)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 08:58:53 -0400
Date: 2004-06-07T08:58:53-04:00 [thread overview]
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Marius Amado Alves wrote:
>
>> In fact this is an area that surprises me most of all!
>>
>> Why don't univesities naturally prefer Ada?!?!?
>
> I can offer this recent experience. I was hired by a University to teach
> Imperative and Object-Oriented Languages in 2002/2003. The curriculum
> included Ada and Smalltalk. I was thrilled. For 2003/2004 another person
> was put in charge. The new person's background did not include Ada or
> Smalltalk. So they just changed the curriculum. (To Java and C I think.)
> Can you see the pattern here? The future teachers are today's students.
> If they don't have a background in Ada, they won't teach it. This began
> one generation ago, so Ada is not taught today, and never will be.
I am not surprised at this. After all, the same problem occurs
in the business world. People recommend and use what they
already know.
Sounds like universities suffer from the chicken and egg
problem.
--
Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg
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2004-05-30 11:46 Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Per Dalgas Jakobsen
2004-05-30 16:13 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-30 18:03 ` Luke A. Guest
2004-05-30 19:09 ` Per Dalgas Jakobsen
2004-05-31 2:28 ` Richard Riehle
2004-05-31 15:33 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-01 2:56 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-01 14:51 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-07 16:29 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-07 17:44 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-08 16:09 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-08 17:30 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-08 20:38 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-08 22:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-09 2:27 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-09 4:41 ` I R T
2004-06-09 6:43 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-10 6:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-06-12 3:16 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-09 6:39 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-09 7:44 ` I R T
2004-06-09 12:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-06-09 12:34 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-09 21:13 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-10 2:51 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-10 15:57 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-10 17:18 ` Pascal Obry
2004-06-10 12:13 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-11 12:48 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-11 17:31 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-14 2:30 ` Berend de Boer
2004-06-14 2:47 ` I R T
2004-06-14 3:10 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-14 11:49 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-14 16:28 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-14 17:34 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-15 11:35 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-15 23:02 ` Brian May
2004-06-16 11:37 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-21 14:56 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-06-23 20:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-06-15 16:30 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-15 11:26 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-15 16:43 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-15 18:51 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-15 21:02 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-15 22:01 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-15 22:08 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-15 22:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-17 15:50 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-17 16:12 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-17 21:05 ` Pascal Obry
2004-06-17 21:47 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-17 22:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-06-18 5:19 ` Brian May
2004-06-18 14:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-06-17 23:02 ` Brian May
2004-06-18 7:50 ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-19 20:40 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-19 18:10 ` Ragged arrays of strings (Was: Improving Ada's image) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-06-20 22:01 ` Pascal Obry
2004-06-19 20:54 ` Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-20 2:20 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-20 4:24 ` tmoran
2004-06-20 15:06 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2004-06-21 15:30 ` Enum'Image (Was: Improving Ada's image) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-06-21 16:06 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2004-06-21 16:53 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-22 21:38 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-06-23 15:42 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-23 17:15 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-06-22 13:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-06-23 16:04 ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-06-25 0:07 ` Enum'Image Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-06-25 15:55 ` Enum'Image Frank J. Lhota
2004-06-23 20:29 ` Enum'Image (Was: Improving Ada's image) Randy Brukardt
2004-06-23 23:35 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2004-06-25 0:15 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-06-26 5:11 ` Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-27 1:00 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-27 2:33 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-15 23:30 ` Dale Stanbrough
2004-06-15 21:59 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-25 4:21 ` Enum'Image (Was: Improving Ada's image) Larry Kilgallen
2004-06-15 19:28 ` Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-15 21:04 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-15 22:13 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-16 0:05 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-15 22:08 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-15 23:06 ` tmoran
2004-06-16 11:47 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-17 1:33 ` Brian May
2004-06-17 12:09 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-16 0:56 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-16 11:54 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-15 1:21 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-07-01 4:08 ` Dave Thompson
2004-07-04 19:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-14 11:45 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-14 13:20 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-06-15 11:39 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-19 23:14 ` Pylinius
2004-06-15 11:41 ` David Starner
2004-06-15 16:29 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-15 17:06 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-11 17:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-11 18:56 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-11 23:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-12 3:08 ` Ada BIND was: " Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-12 12:03 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-12 12:47 ` Jeff C,
2004-06-13 12:22 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-14 16:33 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-13 6:08 ` Russ
2004-06-13 10:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-06-13 14:49 ` Stephen Leake
2004-06-13 20:51 ` Russ
2004-06-13 23:15 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-14 2:09 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-15 0:02 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-15 2:40 ` Brian May
2004-06-15 12:46 ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-06-15 18:53 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-15 22:09 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-07-01 4:08 ` Dave Thompson
2004-06-14 16:43 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-15 11:47 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-15 16:21 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-15 19:36 ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-06-15 19:51 ` Björn Persson
2004-06-16 13:44 ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-06-15 22:13 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-15 22:32 ` Björn Persson
2004-06-15 23:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-15 23:23 ` Brian May
2004-06-15 23:26 ` tmoran
2004-06-16 18:11 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-06-15 23:33 ` Björn Persson
2004-06-15 23:18 ` Dale Stanbrough
2004-06-15 23:22 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-15 23:37 ` Dale Stanbrough
2004-06-15 23:59 ` Björn Persson
2004-06-16 13:38 ` Ada BIND was: Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Larry Kilgallen
2004-06-09 10:52 ` Ada operating systems Peter C. Chapin
2004-06-09 12:07 ` Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Georg Bauhaus
2004-06-11 7:05 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-11 15:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-06-09 12:32 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-15 20:34 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-06-08 19:51 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-08 22:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-09 4:39 ` I R T
2004-06-09 8:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-06-09 12:42 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-09 12:38 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-09 16:23 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-09 16:38 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-06-09 20:51 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-10 12:43 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-15 19:55 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-06-09 23:45 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-10 12:58 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-11 18:03 ` Russ
2004-06-14 16:16 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-01 2:45 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-06-04 17:24 ` Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics (why not Universities?) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-04 18:46 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-06-07 12:58 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG [this message]
2004-06-07 17:11 ` Ada in colleges and universities Peter C. Chapin
2004-06-07 17:29 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-06-07 19:47 ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-06-07 18:39 ` Björn Persson
2004-06-07 18:55 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-06-07 19:21 ` Jerome Hugues
2004-06-07 19:27 ` (see below)
2004-06-07 19:44 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-06-08 1:14 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-07 22:06 ` Björn Persson
2004-06-07 22:17 ` (see below)
2004-06-08 9:30 ` Adrian Knoth
2004-06-08 17:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-08 18:19 ` Adrian Knoth
2004-06-08 9:53 ` Jano
2004-06-09 8:55 ` Pascal Obry
2004-06-07 19:53 ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-06-07 21:54 ` Björn Persson
2004-06-09 3:52 ` I R T
2004-06-09 12:51 ` Björn Persson
2004-06-10 2:58 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-07 22:03 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-06-08 0:16 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-08 5:12 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-06-08 16:14 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-06 13:34 ` Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics (why not Universities?) Ralph W. Reid
2004-06-07 2:38 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-05-30 18:47 ` Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Richard Riehle
2004-05-31 12:57 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-31 23:36 ` Berend de Boer
2004-06-01 0:41 ` tmoran
2004-06-01 11:04 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-01 14:44 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-01 18:43 ` Pascal Obry
2004-06-07 16:35 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-05-31 12:45 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-31 20:55 ` Improving Ada's image Björn Persson
2004-06-01 0:41 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-01 11:23 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-01 2:40 ` Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Hyman Rosen
2004-06-01 21:14 ` Per Dalgas Jakobsen
2004-06-02 1:12 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-02 10:59 ` Stefan Nobis
2004-06-03 4:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
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