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From: Ed Falis <falis@ma.aonix.com>
Subject: Re: Elimination of "use" clauses
Date: 1999/07/02
Date: 1999-07-02T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7lja8s$n01$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7ligdq$c8q$1@nnrp1.deja.com

In article <7ligdq$c8q$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com> wrote:


> While I appreciate the fact that *some* compiler systems have facilites
> to help decipher stuff like this under *certian* circumstances, I am not
> persuaded that obtuse source code is just a "tool problem".
>
> If I have to use specialized tools to figure out what someone's source
> code is doing, the tool that springs most readily to mind is a baseball
> bat...

Aside from the fact that using a compiler system that doesn't provide this
kind of capability is a bit obtuse these days,	I'd have to say that I find
code cluttered with extra identifiers and so on more than code that makes use
of context with disambiguation where necessary.  If the namespace within a
unit requires selected notation to be understandable, there's a good chance
the sucker is much too big.

I've been doing some pretty serious programming in Eiffel lately, with a fair
amount of multiple inheritance.  The language doesn't use anything like
selected notation, and doesn't even have explicit context clauses.  But with
decent browsing available, I never miss them at all.  And I mainly use the
browsing just to look at interfaces.  The code tends to be clean and
understandable, with a clear structure.  This is not a language-specific
issue.	It's a matter of how one does things, and of standardized
expectations (as Robert is also inclined to say).


- Ed Falis
Aonix


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  reply	other threads:[~1999-07-02  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-07-01  0:00 Elimination of "use" clauses Dr. Neil C. Audsley
1999-07-01  0:00 ` Joe Wisniewski
1999-07-01  0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-07-01  0:00 ` czgrr
1999-07-01  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02  0:00     ` czgrr
1999-07-02  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-02  0:00   ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-07-02  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]       ` <7ltl2q$mog$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
1999-07-08  0:00         ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-09  0:00           ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-09  0:00             ` Marin David Condic
1999-07-09  0:00             ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-09  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-09  0:00             ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-14  0:00               ` Tucker Taft
1999-07-09  0:00             ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-07-12  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-12  0:00                 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-10  0:00             ` Simon Wright
1999-07-12  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-08  0:00       ` R. Tim Coslet
1999-07-09  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-09  0:00           ` tmoran
1999-07-02  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02  0:00     ` Ed Falis [this message]
1999-07-02  0:00     ` Stephen Leake
1999-07-02  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]       ` <7ltus1$ah1@dfw-ixnews19.ix.netcom.com>
1999-07-13  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-18  0:00           ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-18  0:00             ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-07-20  0:00               ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-19  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-20  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-20  0:00                     ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-21  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-21  0:00                         ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-22  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-22  0:00                             ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-22  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-22  0:00                             ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-21  0:00                       ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-21  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-21  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-21  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-21  0:00                       ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-21  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-23  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-08-03  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-20  0:00               ` David Kristola
1999-07-18  0:00             ` jerry
1999-07-19  0:00               ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-07-20  0:00               ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-20  0:00                 ` Opaque Types (was Elimination of "use" clauses) David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-07-20  0:00                 ` Elimination of "use" clauses jerry
1999-07-19  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-19  0:00               ` Tucker Taft
1999-07-19  0:00                 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02  0:00   ` Ed Falis
1999-07-03  0:00     ` Joe Wisniewski
1999-07-03  0:00       ` Keith Thompson
1999-07-03  0:00       ` Ed Falis
1999-07-13  0:00     ` Peter Amey
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