From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Elimination of "use" clauses
Date: 1999/07/21
Date: 1999-07-21T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccvhbe9hpr.fsf@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7n0ska$h20$1@nnrp1.deja.com
Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> writes:
> In article > I still really dislike "use type".
>
> Why? You have not clearly stated a reason for this dislike!
>
> And I certainly have not seen any satisfactory substitute
> proposed!
Remember the original proposal of the design team was to make the
operators visible by default -- you would get the "use type" behavior
without writing *anything* extra.
This idea was rejected primarily due to upward compatibility concerns,
although I think there were some reviewers who just didn't like it (just
as some folks here don't like "use type").
I understand the upward compatibility concern, but it really is odd that
in Ada ":=" is visible everywhere, but "=" is not. "In" and "not in"
are visible everywhere, but "not" is not. I imagine the reasoning of
the original design team had to do with which operators are "operators"
(in Ada jargon) -- ie user-definable. But that seems like a pretty weak
reason, when I normally just want to use the predefined ones.
Robert is fond of saying that style rules shouldn't be absolute. Well,
I usually agree, but here's one that I think really is absolute: Never,
never use dotted notation in a function call if the function name is an
operator symbol. If you have something that really needs to be
distinguished that carefully, then you shouldn't give it a name like
"+". Can anybody think of an example that shows I'm wrong?
- Bob
--
Change robert to bob to get my real email address. Sorry.
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-07-01 0:00 Elimination of "use" clauses Dr. Neil C. Audsley
1999-07-01 0:00 ` Joe Wisniewski
1999-07-01 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-07-01 0:00 ` czgrr
1999-07-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02 0:00 ` czgrr
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-07-03 0:00 ` Joe Wisniewski
1999-07-03 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-07-03 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1999-07-13 0:00 ` Peter Amey
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <7ltus1$ah1@dfw-ixnews19.ix.netcom.com>
1999-07-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-18 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-18 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-07-20 0:00 ` David Kristola
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-22 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-22 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-23 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-08-03 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-18 0:00 ` jerry
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-20 0:00 ` jerry
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Opaque Types (was Elimination of "use" clauses) David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Elimination of "use" clauses Ted Dennison
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <7ltl2q$mog$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
1999-07-08 0:00 ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-14 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-07-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-12 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-10 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-07-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-08 0:00 ` R. Tim Coslet
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-09 0:00 ` tmoran
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