From: Stephen Leake <Stephen.Leake@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Elimination of "use" clauses
Date: 1999/07/02
Date: 1999-07-02T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ubtdvylsh.fsf@gsfc.nasa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7ligdq$c8q$1@nnrp1.deja.com
Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com> writes:
> In article <7lh74s$v36$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Robert Dewar <dewar@gnat.com> wrote:
> > In article <377B5807.88B875E0@cs.york.ac.uk>,
> > Neil.Audsley@cs.york.ac.uk wrote:
> > >
> > > We have a lot of Ada source that "with"s and "use"s a lot of
> > packages --
> > > to the extent that it is difficult and time-consuming to find
> > out which
> > > package a procedure is actually from.
> > I don't know of a dotification tool, but it seems strange to
> > claim that it is difficult and time-consuming to find out
> > which package a procedure is from. That sounds like you are
> > not using appropriate tools. Try using the EMACS interface
>
> While I appreciate the fact that *some* compiler systems have facilites
> to help decipher stuff like this under *certian* circumstances, I am not
> persuaded that obtuse source code is just a "tool problem".
>
> If I have to use specialized tools to figure out what someone's source
> code is doing, the tool that springs most readily to mind is a baseball
> bat...
The code reading tool is no more "specialized" than the compiler!
Borland provides a similar tool for C++, and DEC Ada 83 provided a
similar tool in conjunction with LSE. ObjectAda and GNAT both provide
such tools; I would reject any compiler that did not.
With such a tool, you can understand more complex programs than
without such a tool. It is just one more aspect of the art of
programming.
Of course, there is no substitute for well written code, but I have no
problem assuming the availability of appropriate code reading tools
when judging what is well written.
For instance, I find it harder to read code without syntax
colorization. I don't think this is a problem, since colorization is
so widely available. The same is now true of cross reference tools;
they are widely available, so I am comfortable relying on them.
-- Stephe
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-07-01 0:00 Elimination of "use" clauses Dr. Neil C. Audsley
1999-07-01 0:00 ` Joe Wisniewski
1999-07-01 0:00 ` czgrr
1999-07-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02 0:00 ` czgrr
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-01 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Stephen Leake [this message]
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <7ltus1$ah1@dfw-ixnews19.ix.netcom.com>
1999-07-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-18 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-18 0:00 ` jerry
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-20 0:00 ` jerry
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Opaque Types (was Elimination of "use" clauses) David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-07-18 0:00 ` Elimination of "use" clauses Dale Stanbrough
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-20 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-22 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-22 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-07-23 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-08-03 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-20 0:00 ` David Kristola
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-07-19 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-07-03 0:00 ` Joe Wisniewski
1999-07-03 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1999-07-03 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-07-13 0:00 ` Peter Amey
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-07-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <7ltl2q$mog$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
1999-07-08 0:00 ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-07-14 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-07-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-12 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-07-10 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-07-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-08 0:00 ` R. Tim Coslet
1999-07-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-07-09 0:00 ` tmoran
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