From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, MSGID_RANDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3dbf2f325f33ce35 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Ed Falis Subject: Re: Elimination of "use" clauses Date: 1999/07/02 Message-ID: <7lja8s$n01$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 496539045 References: <377B5807.88B875E0@cs.york.ac.uk> <7lh74s$v36$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7ligdq$c8q$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x38.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 136.175.17.221 Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jul 02 21:17:26 1999 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (Windows NT 5.0;US) Opera 3.60 [en] Date: 1999-07-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <7ligdq$c8q$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Ted Dennison wrote: > While I appreciate the fact that *some* compiler systems have facilites > to help decipher stuff like this under *certian* circumstances, I am not > persuaded that obtuse source code is just a "tool problem". > > If I have to use specialized tools to figure out what someone's source > code is doing, the tool that springs most readily to mind is a baseball > bat... Aside from the fact that using a compiler system that doesn't provide this kind of capability is a bit obtuse these days, I'd have to say that I find code cluttered with extra identifiers and so on more than code that makes use of context with disambiguation where necessary. If the namespace within a unit requires selected notation to be understandable, there's a good chance the sucker is much too big. I've been doing some pretty serious programming in Eiffel lately, with a fair amount of multiple inheritance. The language doesn't use anything like selected notation, and doesn't even have explicit context clauses. But with decent browsing available, I never miss them at all. And I mainly use the browsing just to look at interfaces. The code tends to be clean and understandable, with a clear structure. This is not a language-specific issue. It's a matter of how one does things, and of standardized expectations (as Robert is also inclined to say). - Ed Falis Aonix Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.