Re: List Container Strawman 1.4

["Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>]

"Ted Dennison" <dennison@telepath.com> wrote in message
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> A point of order: The ACL would actually replace the "Containers" part.
> "Containers" was my placeholder root name.
>
That kind of presumes that the only thing this library of stuff will ever
have in it is containers. What if some other collection of packages or
classes gets identified as useful? (I have my favorites, but even without
them, I'd still see some desirability to enable future expansion.)

"Components" need not all be "Containers". Maybe we could lose the whole
"Containers" part and make a flatter tree? Something like
ACL.Lists.Unbounded?

> As for the name itself, ACL is one of the better ones I've seen from the
acronym
> approach. I'd still like something with a bit of pizzaz. Java has "Beans",
which
> I don't believe stands for anything.
>
It could also be over-used - Access Control Lists? I like it for being
simple and short, like STL or MFC. Pizzaz? For that, you kind of need a
theme - Java has the whole coffee thing locked up and Ada traditionally has
used things like Byron and Lovelace and Diana - names that may have
something or nothing to do with Ada. Agusta?

One of my compatriots in another existence liked to name all the company
laptops and computers after Tequilas. Trademark infringements aside, I'd go
for that. Especially when it came time to do some "research" to find a name
for a new machine. :-)

> Hmmm. How about "Grace"? It could be considered a homage to Adm. Grace
Hopper.
> Alternatively, it could stand for something like "General Reusable Ada
Container
> Environment". :-)
>
Grace? Hmmmmm....... "Amazing Grace"? "Grace-land"? "Princess Grace"? "Grace
Jones"? "GrrrrrrACE!!!"? Hmmmmm...... (I'd say "Ko-Ko-Kosherrific!" if I
thought there was anybody out there who would get the reference... :-)

I like how it honors Adm. Hopper - any objections to having Ada be even more
associated with the DoD?

If it alternately stood for General Reusable Ada Component Environment, and
honored Grace Hopper as well, I could go for it. I don't know if we'd get
any really good marketing slogans or pizzaz out of it.

What about just ACE? Ada Component Environment? Then you've got Deuce, Jack,
Heart, Diamond, Full_House, Flush, etc. as new directions.

I'm not fussy as long as it is relatively short and doesn't limit the
library strictly to containers. Pick one and lets see if anybody hates it so
much they threaten to leave the newsgroup and program in Cobol if we use it.

MDC
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