From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony)
Subject: Re: Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching
Date: 1996/11/01
Date: 1996-11-01T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <JSA.96Nov1183554@alexandria> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E06F2B.Az7@syd.csa.com.au
In article <E06F2B.Az7@syd.csa.com.au> donh@syd.csa.com.au (Don Harrison) writes:
> Jon S Anthony writes:
>
> :> 2) but this is combined with the static overloading inherited from
> :> Ada83; which is merely syntactic sugar for routine having
> :> (statically) different signatures.
> :
> :Criminey! This is wrong too. It is not "merely syntactic sugar", as it
> :is part and parcel of why Ada does not need any system validity checks!
>
> Disagree. Overloading *is* syntactic sugar because it merely allows reuse
> of an identifier without any semantic difference (to using a different one).
> The reason Ada does not need checks on use of polymorphism is that
> it is avariant (no variance) compared with Eiffel which is covariant.
Go back and re-read that long note I wrote in the "Real OO" thread on
why Ada does not have system validity problems and then the follow up
which tried to point out your misunderstandings and you will see why
you are wrong about this. Well, I hope so - maybe you still don't get
get it.
The reason that OL enters into the puzzle is that it allows for the
definition of _new_ operations (on specific types) with descendent
controlling parameter(s) and a _non_ controlling descendent
parameter(s) but with the same name. Now you can claim that this is
"confusing" (a value judgement), but that will most likely be because
you are not used to the differentiation between specific types and
class-wide types (which we went over in excrutiating detail...)
/Jon
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Jon Anthony
Organon Motives, Inc.
Belmont, MA 02178
617.484.3383
jsa@organon.com
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1996-10-27 0:00 Eiffel and Java Vincent WEBER
1996-10-27 0:00 ` Jean-Michel P. Decombe
1996-10-28 0:00 ` Alexandre Oliva
1996-10-28 0:00 ` David Hanley
1996-10-28 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-10-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Doug Marker
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Chris Trimble
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Doug Marker
1996-10-31 0:00 ` David Bennett
1996-10-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Vincent WEBER
1996-10-31 0:00 ` James McKim
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-11-04 0:00 ` James McKim
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jean-Marc Jezequel
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java Don Harrison
1996-10-31 0:00 ` James McKim
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-23 0:00 ` Van Snyder
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java Jon S Anthony
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-28 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Vincent WEBER
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Jean-Marc Jezequel
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java Fergus Henderson
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-10-31 0:00 ` David L. Shang
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-11-04 0:00 ` David L. Shang
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-11-06 0:00 ` David L. Shang
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-04 0:00 ` David L. Shang
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Darko BUDOR
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Darko BUDOR
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Matthias Ernst
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-10 0:00 ` Marcos F. F. de Macedo
1996-11-11 0:00 ` David L. Shang
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-12 0:00 ` David L. Shang
1996-11-12 0:00 ` David L. Shang
1996-11-16 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-18 0:00 ` David L. Shang
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Kai Quale
1996-11-18 0:00 ` David L. Shang
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Kai Quale
1996-11-15 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Alexander Asteroth
1996-11-11 0:00 ` Marcos F. F. de Macedo
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Benedict A. Gomes
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jon S Anthony
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-04 0:00 ` C to Ada Ali Mirhosseini
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Matthew Daniel
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jon S Anthony
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java David Petrie Stoutamire
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Jean-Marc Jezequel
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1996-11-01 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony [this message]
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Robb Nebbe
1996-11-06 0:00 ` To overload or not to overload (was Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching) Don Harrison
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robb Nebbe
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-11 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-08 0:00 ` bill.williams
1996-11-11 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jean-Marc Jezequel
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Robb Nebbe
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-15 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
1996-11-16 0:00 ` Interfacing contracts (Was: Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching) Geert Bosch
1996-11-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Robert A Duff
1996-11-13 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-13 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-15 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-20 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-15 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-15 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Vincent Celier
1996-11-22 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-15 0:00 ` portmanteau (was Re: Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching) Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Robb Nebbe
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java Matthias Ernst
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Benedict A. Gomes
1996-11-01 0:00 ` William Clodius
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Marcos F. F. de Macedo
1996-11-11 0:00 ` Ian Joyner
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-13 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-15 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-15 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-21 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Eiffel and Java Richard A. O'Keefe
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