Toolchain of choice

Toolchain of choice

[Marcelo Coraça de Freitas]

Hello there,

I have noticed some of the users of this list like to compile his/her
own GNAT toolchain. I am doing this myself just for the fun of it (and
also because Sabayon is at GNAT-GCC 4.3.1 while GCC 4.5.1 is already
out and because the GNAT package isn't really integrated with the main
GCC package of the distribution).

I'd like to know what you guys use for your daily work? The ACT GNAT
build? The FSF package built from source? Or the official GNAT package
for your operating system?

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Peter C. Chapin]

On 2010-11-17 07:17, Marcelo Cora�a de Freitas wrote:

> I'd like to know what you guys use for your daily work? The ACT GNAT
> build? The FSF package built from source? Or the official GNAT package
> for your operating system?

I normally use out-of-the-box GNAT GPL.

Peter

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Thomas Løcke]

On 2010-11-17 13:17, Marcelo Cora�a de Freitas wrote:
> I'd like to know what you guys use for your daily work? The ACT GNAT
> build? The FSF package built from source? Or the official GNAT package
> for your operating system?


GNAT GPL from libre.adacore.com.

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Re: Toolchain of choice

[xavier grave]

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Le 17/11/2010 13:17, Marcelo Cora�a de Freitas a �crit :
> Hello there,
> 
> I have noticed some of the users of this list like to compile his/her
> own GNAT toolchain. I am doing this myself just for the fun of it (and
> also because Sabayon is at GNAT-GCC 4.3.1 while GCC 4.5.1 is already
> out and because the GNAT package isn't really integrated with the main
> GCC package of the distribution).
> 
> I'd like to know what you guys use for your daily work? The ACT GNAT
> build? The FSF package built from source? Or the official GNAT package
> for your operating system?

I'm using two versions :
    - GNAT Pro with Ada core support
    - Debian GNAT packages in order to package our local software for
      Debian
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Re: Toolchain of choice

[Simon Wright]

Marcelo Coraça de Freitas <marcelo.batera@gmail.com> writes:

> I'd like to know what you guys use for your daily work? The ACT GNAT
> build? The FSF package built from source? Or the official GNAT package
> for your operating system?

For daily work, GNATPro from AdaCore.

For evening/weekend work, GCC 4.5.0 built from sources (usually; GNAT
GPL 2010 from libre.adacore.com for checking against).

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Marcelo Coraça de Freitas]

On Nov 17, 7:45 pm, Simon Wright <si...@pushface.org> wrote:
> Marcelo Coraça de Freitas <marcelo.bat...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I'd like to know what you guys use for your daily work? The ACT GNAT
> > build? The FSF package built from source? Or the official GNAT package
> > for your operating system?
>
> For daily work, GNATPro from AdaCore.
>
> For evening/weekend work, GCC 4.5.0 built from sources (usually; GNAT
> GPL 2010 from libre.adacore.com for checking against).

Simon, what host compiler did you use to build your own GCC 4.5.0? :)

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Simon Wright]

Marcelo Coraça de Freitas <marcelo.batera@gmail.com> writes:

> On Nov 17, 7:45 pm, Simon Wright <si...@pushface.org> wrote:
>> Marcelo Coraça de Freitas <marcelo.bat...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > I'd like to know what you guys use for your daily work? The ACT GNAT
>> > build? The FSF package built from source? Or the official GNAT package
>> > for your operating system?
>>
>> For daily work, GNATPro from AdaCore.
>>
>> For evening/weekend work, GCC 4.5.0 built from sources (usually; GNAT
>> GPL 2010 from libre.adacore.com for checking against).
>
> Simon, what host compiler did you use to build your own GCC 4.5.0? :)

I'm having trouble remembering! and my notes don't help. I started it on
Mac OS X Snow Leopard, in which 64-bit compilers eg GNAT GPL 2009
couldn't handle exceptions. I had a 32-bit build of GNAT GPL 2009 (built
under Leopard, because the Tk framework only existed in 32-bit version)
and that was fine; I expect that was the one.

Now, there would be no trouble using GNAT GPL 2010.

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Marcelo Coraça de Freitas]

On Nov 18, 5:04 pm, Simon Wright <si...@pushface.org> wrote:
> Now, there would be no trouble using GNAT GPL 2010.

Awesome, but wouldn't the license when compiling with GNAT GPL infect
GNAT GCC?

I mean, gnat gcc is MGPL while gnat gpl is pure GPL.

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Ludovic Brenta]

Marcelo Coraça de Freitas wrote on comp.lang.ada:
>> Now, there would be no trouble using GNAT GPL 2010.
>
> Awesome, but wouldn't the license when compiling with GNAT GPL infect
> GNAT GCC?
>
> I mean, gnat gcc is MGPL while gnat gpl is pure GPL.

No, because the compiler (GNAT GCC) does not include any binary code
from the bootstrap compiler (GNAT GPL).  More generally, the "viral
clause" of the GPL only affects programs linked against libgnat; GCC
itself is not linked against libgnat, neither its own version or the
one of GNAT GPL.

--
Ludovic Brenta.

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Shark8]

> >> GPL 2010 from libre.adacore.com for checking against).
>
> > Simon, what host compiler did you use to build your own GCC 4.5.0? :)
>
> I'm having trouble remembering! and my notes don't help.

LOL - I understand *that*!
It's slightly reassuring that I'm not the only one who who writes
notes that later can't be 'read'. {Therein lies the problem of
thinking "oh, yeah, this is obvious so I don't *have* to write it..."
which is somewhat similar to the "it's obvious from the context" line
of thinking.}

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Marcelo Coraça de Freitas]

On Nov 19, 6:43 pm, Shark8 <onewingedsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> GPL 2010 from libre.adacore.com for checking against).
>
> > > Simon, what host compiler did you use to build your own GCC 4.5.0? :)
>
> > I'm having trouble remembering! and my notes don't help.
>
> LOL - I understand *that*!
> It's slightly reassuring that I'm not the only one who who writes
> notes that later can't be 'read'. {Therein lies the problem of
> thinking "oh, yeah, this is obvious so I don't *have* to write it..."
> which is somewhat similar to the "it's obvious from the context" line
> of thinking.}

yeah, it's nice to know I am not the only one doing that. :D

well, I kinda stopped doing this when I started using gmail (I email
my notes all the time) and the KOW framework's redmine. :D

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Simon Wright]

Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com> writes:

>> >> GPL 2010 from libre.adacore.com for checking against).
>>
>> > Simon, what host compiler did you use to build your own GCC 4.5.0?
>> > :)
>>
>> I'm having trouble remembering! and my notes don't help.
>
> LOL - I understand *that*!
> It's slightly reassuring that I'm not the only one who who writes
> notes that later can't be 'read'.

The notes were quite extensive (in a TiddlyWiki,
http://www.tiddlywiki.com/), full of extensive build logs etc, they just
don't tell me which compiler I started with! The trouble was that
AdaCore's GNAT GPL 2009 (which is x86_64) doesn't work on Snow Leopard;
there was some problem ... AH! from 25 December 2009,

   GNAT seems to be OK (after installing XCode!)  Actually, that's only
   gcc-4.3.3. The GNAT-GPL-2009 and 6.2.2 compilers fall over because
   Darwin no longer exports sigreturn.

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Jacob Sparre Andersen]

Marcelo Cora�a de Freitas wrote:

> I'd like to know what you guys use for your daily work? The ACT GNAT
> build? The FSF package built from source? Or the official GNAT package
> for your operating system?

I use the Debian GNAT packages.

Greetings,

Jacob
-- 
There only exist 10 kinds of people: Those who know binary
numbers and those who don't know binary numbers.

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Warren]

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Marcelo Cora�a de Freitas expounded in
news:64e28922-b6ea-4956-933d-f48fa74cf9e0@k13g2000vbq.googlegr
oups.com: 

> yeah, it's nice to know I am not the only one doing that.
> :D 
> 
> well, I kinda stopped doing this when I started using gmail
> (I email my notes all the time) and the KOW framework's
> redmine. :D 

Now with google docs, it's not necessary to do the 
emailing/drafts anymore. 

I often whip open a parts list at home, and then print it from 
work (to shop for at lunchtime). Handy that.  Not to mention I 
can upload tar files of code and use at work or from home etc. 

Warren

Re: Toolchain of choice

[Warren]

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Jacob Sparre Andersen expounded in
news:87sjyr4uzw.fsf@hugsarin.sparre-andersen.dk: 

> Marcelo Cora�a de Freitas wrote:
> 
>> I'd like to know what you guys use for your daily work?
>> The ACT GNAT build? The FSF package built from source? Or
>> the official GNAT package for your operating system?
> 
> I use the Debian GNAT packages.
> Jacob

Since I spend 4hrs/day commuting, I do a lot of work under 
Cygwin on my corporate laptop. Under Linux, I use Debian 
packages.

Warren