From: Erlo Haugen <"elh whirlpool terma spot com">
Subject: Re: Isn't this in favour of Ada??
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:39:18 +0200
Date: 2005-07-22T09:39:18+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42e0a2a6$0$36943$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk> (raw)
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Maciej Sobczak wrote:
> Erlo Haugen wrote:
>
>> http://www.gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm
>>
>> I think so.
>
>
> I don't think so. I mean - the article is neutral with regard to Ada,
> and not only because it does not mention "Ada" at all.
>
> The article is about the fact that future hardware platforms will tend
> to have more and more parallelism, no matter whether this will be used
> by software or not. Actually, this happens already, even on popular
> desktop platforms.
> The problem that you seem to forget about is that all the factors that
> are used today for choosing the language (some factors are technical,
> some not, but that does not matter) will be still in use tomorrow. For
> example, if some project chooses Java, it does so independent of whether
> the program will be running on Hyper Threading processor or not - so the
> increased concurrency capabilities of the target platform has no impact
> on the language chosen for implementation. In general, programmers will
> not rush to change their languages just because the multicore CPUs will
> become prevalent. This article is therefore about raising the awareness
> of programmers that concurrency is the only way to benefit from new
> hardware, which is very far from saying that people should move to
> another language - be it Ada or whatever else. And since the author is
> involved in the C++ standardization process, I'd rather read this
> article as a "good-source" prediction that more effort will be put into
> standardizing the relation between C++ and multithreading (which already
> happens).
>
> The *only* way it could be in favour of Ada is to reuse the experience
> of the Ada community when defining threading for C++ (I'm not sure
> whether this will be the case or not), but I don't think that this kind
> of "favour" is what you really mean. ;)
>
>
What i meant to say was that Ada already has the features needed to take
advantage of this increasing parallelism, be it hyperthreading og
multiple processors, and doing it in a portable way. Threading
possibilities are already supplied by most OSes, but by incorporating it
as a language standard, it becomes portable.
--
Erlo
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2005-07-14 11:34 Isn't this in favour of Ada?? Erlo Haugen
2005-07-14 14:56 ` Mike Silva
2005-07-14 16:11 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-07-14 18:06 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-07-15 13:05 ` Marin David Condic
2005-07-19 17:03 ` James Alan Farrell
2005-07-19 17:31 ` Ed Falis
2005-07-20 11:49 ` Marin David Condic
2005-07-19 11:40 ` Erlo Haugen
2005-07-19 17:10 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-07-19 15:41 ` Dan McLeran
2005-07-19 17:17 ` Adrien Plisson
2005-07-20 2:22 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-07-20 5:13 ` Dan McLeran
2005-07-22 7:30 ` Erlo Haugen
2005-07-22 13:12 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-07-22 13:36 ` Erlo Haugen
2005-07-22 14:24 ` Dan McLeran
2005-07-22 14:29 ` Bob Spooner
2005-07-23 13:02 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-07-22 18:01 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-07-22 15:49 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-07-15 14:04 ` Florian Weimer
2005-07-15 21:10 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-07-18 12:37 ` Marin David Condic
2005-07-18 12:57 ` Ed Falis
2005-07-18 13:18 ` Marin David Condic
2005-07-18 14:12 ` Ed Falis
2005-07-19 12:51 ` Marin David Condic
2005-07-19 18:08 ` Robert A Duff
2005-07-20 5:12 ` Simon Wright
2005-07-20 15:37 ` Robert A Duff
2005-07-21 12:15 ` Marin David Condic
2005-07-21 15:32 ` Robert A Duff
2005-07-20 12:26 ` Marin David Condic
2005-10-27 7:20 ` Robert I. Eachus
2005-08-04 12:59 ` Florian Weimer
2005-08-05 14:29 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-08-05 16:58 ` Florian Weimer
2005-08-05 23:15 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-08-06 4:01 ` tmoran
2005-08-06 10:28 ` Pascal Obry
2005-08-06 10:33 ` Pascal Obry
2005-08-06 11:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-21 13:27 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-07-22 7:39 ` Erlo Haugen [this message]
2005-07-22 9:29 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-07-22 10:41 ` Erlo Haugen
2005-07-22 14:28 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-07-22 15:02 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-25 9:48 ` Tassilo v. Parseval
2005-07-25 13:31 ` Adrien Plisson
2005-07-25 15:08 ` Jerome Hugues
2005-07-25 15:58 ` Adrien Plisson
2005-07-25 21:03 ` Jerome Hugues
2005-07-26 6:03 ` Tassilo v. Parseval
2005-07-25 16:39 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-26 5:58 ` Tassilo v. Parseval
2005-07-26 17:25 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-22 15:26 ` Georg Bauhaus
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