From: dmitry@elros.cbb-automation.de (Dmitry A. Kazakov)
Subject: Re: Side-Effects in Functions [Rosen Trick]
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 10:29:50 GMT
Date: 2001-11-05T10:29:50+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3be666fe.6426140@News.CIS.DFN.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9s5eub02j61@drn.newsguy.com
On 4 Nov 2001 23:26:03 -0800, pete@nospam <pete_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:
>functions, in the mathemtical sense, do not accept an IN OUT paramters,
>and do not have side effects.
>
>y=f(x), x here can never be modified by the function f().
>
>so, Ada function is more like a math function.
No function in a programming language may have no side effects. One
could say that there are side effects which are of no interest, but no
more than that.
The discussion about in out parameters is proved to be evergreen
(:-)). But what I presonally cannot understand is why not to allow
PROCEDUREs having a result, i.e.
procedure Find (Folder : in out Table) return Table_Token;
procedure GetNext (Item_List : in out Iterator) return Element;
etc.
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
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2001-11-02 3:56 List container strawman Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 4:20 ` James Rogers
2001-11-02 14:23 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 14:38 ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-02 15:15 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-02 4:35 ` Eric Merritt
2001-11-02 15:46 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 7:28 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-11-02 14:57 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02 15:57 ` Francisco Javier Loma Daza
2001-11-02 16:28 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02 17:08 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 15:06 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 15:32 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02 16:33 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 16:43 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02 22:51 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-03 0:24 ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-03 2:21 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-03 22:51 ` Rosen Trick [List container strawman] Nick Roberts
2001-11-04 13:07 ` Robert Dewar
2001-11-04 17:17 ` Side-Effects in Functions [Rosen Trick] Nick Roberts
2001-11-05 2:46 ` Robert Dewar
2001-11-05 7:26 ` pete
2001-11-05 10:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2001-11-05 11:19 ` pete
2001-11-05 14:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-11-05 15:21 ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-05 16:04 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-05 16:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-11-05 17:42 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-11-05 18:11 ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-06 8:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-11-06 9:31 ` tgingold
2001-11-06 0:10 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-06 9:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-11-06 16:18 ` Lazy Evaluation [Side-Effects in Functions] Nick Roberts
2001-11-07 3:42 ` Robert Dewar
2001-11-07 4:42 ` Darren New
2001-11-07 11:54 ` Robert Dewar
2001-11-07 13:32 ` Florian Weimer
2001-11-07 13:24 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-11-09 18:06 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 18:27 ` M. A. Alves
2001-11-11 20:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-12-06 17:47 ` Harri J Haataja
2001-11-07 9:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-11-06 20:08 ` Side-Effects in Functions [Rosen Trick] Florian Weimer
2001-11-06 22:48 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-07 10:46 ` Florian Weimer
2001-11-05 13:56 ` Robert Dewar
2001-11-05 16:08 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-05 17:44 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-11-05 15:56 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-05 18:46 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-08 11:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-11-16 0:31 ` List container strawman Vincent Marciante
2001-11-05 15:10 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-05 18:31 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-05 19:09 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-05 21:23 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-07 19:27 ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-02 18:11 ` Mark Johnson
2001-11-02 18:46 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02 19:21 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-03 22:30 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-02 16:26 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 16:36 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02 19:31 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 17:49 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-08 10:34 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-11-08 18:53 ` Better Finalisation [List container strawman] Nick Roberts
2001-11-09 13:36 ` Robert Dewar
2001-11-09 15:04 ` Florian Weimer
2001-11-10 0:36 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-09 15:16 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 17:30 ` Better control of assignment Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-10 0:32 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-10 22:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-13 6:36 ` Craig Carey
2001-11-13 6:39 ` Craig Carey
2001-11-13 8:53 ` Craig Carey
2001-11-14 9:42 ` Craig Carey
2001-11-09 14:49 ` List container strawman Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 16:12 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-11-09 17:12 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-09 18:11 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 18:42 ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-10 17:54 ` Simon Wright
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2001-11-02 13:14 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 13:31 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-02 15:09 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 15:13 ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-02 20:48 ` David Starner
2001-11-02 22:49 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-02 17:44 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-02 20:07 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 23:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-03 6:56 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-03 19:22 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-04 18:58 ` Darren New
2001-11-04 19:40 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-04 20:49 ` Darren New
2001-11-07 19:07 ` ramatthews
2001-11-08 0:04 ` Darren New
2001-11-08 4:50 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-08 23:26 ` ramatthews
2001-11-09 18:00 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 18:13 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-11-09 18:55 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-10 1:48 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-10 17:04 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-10 20:59 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-10 23:17 ` Larry Hazel
2001-11-11 3:27 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-12 18:39 ` Darren New
2001-11-13 0:35 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-10 19:36 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-11-10 20:15 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-09 19:27 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-09 20:03 ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-09 21:05 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 22:42 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-10 4:52 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-10 20:24 ` ramatthews
2001-11-05 19:28 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-05 19:42 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-11-05 20:40 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-05 20:24 ` Darren New
2001-11-05 20:45 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-05 17:21 ` List container strawman; Construct alternatives Stephen Leake
2001-11-03 7:42 ` List container strawman Simon Wright
2001-11-05 14:00 ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-08 11:17 ` Simon Wright
2001-11-13 16:29 ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-13 22:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-13 22:48 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-14 3:46 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-15 10:23 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-11-14 14:50 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-14 16:53 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-14 17:59 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-15 3:33 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-15 15:10 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-16 1:29 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-16 16:03 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-16 20:19 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-15 18:08 ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-02 14:49 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02 15:15 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 15:37 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02 16:49 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 17:09 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-04 0:10 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-03 23:41 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-02 17:02 ` David Botton
2001-11-02 17:55 ` David Botton
2001-11-03 19:22 ` Nick Roberts
2001-11-08 14:57 ` M. A. Alves
2001-11-09 2:00 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-09 18:31 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-10 19:56 ` Ehud Lamm
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2001-11-05 21:10 Side-Effects in Functions [Rosen Trick] Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2001-11-05 21:58 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-11-22 6:22 ` David Thompson
2001-11-23 7:18 ` Brian Rogoff
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