Re: blacklist

Re: blacklist

[Grant Griffin]

E. Robert Tisdale wrote:
> 
> The blacklist database
> 
>         http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/comp/dsp/blacklist.html
> 
> contains the names of people prone to posting personal attacks
> and libelous remarks, using abusive or threatening rhetoric or
> deceiving and manipulating subscribers to the comp.dsp newsgroup.
> That is to say -- people prone to flaming, spamming and trolling.
> 
> New subscribers and other people who read comp.dsp infrequently
> are encouraged to consult the blacklist database before
> responding
> to any posting in the comp.dsp newsgroup.  Responding to anyone
> on the blacklist could have very unpleasant consequences.
> 
> E. Robert Tisdale <edwin@netwood.net>

To those of you not in comp.dsp:

I've done a little research recently which shows that Mr. E. Robert
Tisdale has been involved in your newsgroup.  Mr. Tisdale has appointed
himself Policeman of the comp.dsp newsgroup by creating this blacklist. 
No one in comp.dsp has asked for Mr. Tisdale's blacklist, and no one has
endorsed it.  As with all Usenet Policemen, Mr. Tisdale has appointed
himself, and his opinions are strictly his own.

Please be aware that Mr. Tisdale is VERY SENSITIVE.  If you wish to
reply to any of his questions, please phrase your replies VERY
DELICATELY so you won't hurt his tender feelings.  The safest thing to
do, of course, is just to ignore him entirely; that's the only sure way
to prevent him from appointing himself Policeman of _your_ newsgroup by
creating another blacklist.

Alternatively, you could just have fun with it as we do in comp.dsp, and
ridicule Mr. Tisdale for thinking that he is in charge of Usenet, its
newsgroups, or even his own potty schedule.  I, personally, have taken
this approach, as have most of the other regular contributors to
comp.dsp.  In comp.dsp, we make fun of him for his strange love of Joe
McCarthy-style totalitarianism, his naive misconception of how Usenet
really works, his glaring lack of knowledge and experience in the topics
he expounds upon, his wooden prose, and his pathological absence of a
sense of humor.  If you observe any of these qualities as he involves
himself in _your_ newsgroup, you'll know just what to do. ;-) 

If you'd like to learn more about Mr. Tisdale's antics in comp.dsp
and/or the group's reaction to them, here is a search URL from
AltaVista:


<http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&what=news&q=%22robert+tisdale%22&search=Search>

Sorry to bother you with this.

best regards,

=g2
Self-Appointed Chairman of Mr. Tisdale's Blacklist
(My views are mine alone and don't necessarily represent those of other
Blacklistee's)
-- 
_____________________________________________________________________

Grant R. Griffin                           grant.griffin@iowegian.com
Iowegian International Corporation	      http://www.iowegian.com
_____________________________________________________________________

Re: blacklist

[Al Clark]

In article <36A07895.6757@iowegian.com>, grant.griffin@iowegian.com wrote:
>E. Robert Tisdale wrote:
>> 
>> The blacklist database
>> 
>>         http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/comp/dsp/blacklist.html
>> 
>> contains the names of people prone to posting personal attacks
>> and libelous remarks, using abusive or threatening rhetoric or
>> deceiving and manipulating subscribers to the comp.dsp newsgroup.
>> That is to say -- people prone to flaming, spamming and trolling.
>> 
>> New subscribers and other people who read comp.dsp infrequently
>> are encouraged to consult the blacklist database before
>> responding
>> to any posting in the comp.dsp newsgroup.  Responding to anyone
>> on the blacklist could have very unpleasant consequences.
>> 
>> E. Robert Tisdale <edwin@netwood.net>
>
>To those of you not in comp.dsp:
>
Whether one chooses to follow Mr Tisdale's advice concerning his blacklist, no 
one will ever have to consider his advice with regards to DSP. We doesn't have 
any. I have to assume that unlike the blacklistees, he doesn't know anything 
about the subject. Maybe if we all try really hard to ignore him, he might 
find somewhere else to harass since he obviously needs to have his unearned 
ego stroked. If you've got it flaunt it, otherwise create a blacklist???

Al Clark

Re: blacklist

[alexs]

On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:53:30 GMT, aclark@danvillesignal.com (Al Clark)
wrote:

>Whether one chooses to follow Mr Tisdale's advice concerning his blacklist

Oh, but I have, and there's one person on MY blacklist
(& reader message filter): E.R. Tisdale himself.

Thanks and have a nice day.

blacklist

[E. Robert Tisdale]

I have been considering maintaining and publishing
a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
The blacklist data base would contain the names
of subscribers who post off-topic articles
to the newsgroup.
New subscribers and infrequent contributors
to the newsgroup would be advised
to consult the blacklist data base before responding
to articles posted in the newsgroup.
There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

Re: blacklist

[Larry Kilgallen]

In article <8no8ng$jjn$0@pita.alt.net>, "E. Robert Tisdale" <edwin@netwood.net> writes:
> I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> The blacklist data base would contain the names
> of subscribers who post off-topic articles
> to the newsgroup.

I would prefer a blacklist of people who purposefully try to
introduce non-Ada discussion by cross-posting to other groups.
Your post, for instance:

Newsgroups: comp.arch.arithmetic,
            comp.lang.fortran,
            comp.lang.c++,
            comp.arch.embedded,
            comp.lang.ada,
            sci.math.num-analysis,
            comp.dsp,
            rec.scuba.equipment,
            alt.tv.days-f-our-lives

If I cared at all about C++ or Fortran, I would subscribe
to those groups, but otherwise most discussions of those
topics are "off topic" in comp.lang.ada.  I bet there are
C++ and Fortran users who feel the same way about Ada.

So why do you choose to create a joint discussion between
those diverse communities regarding what is "off-topic" ?
The most memorable (to me) "off-topic" discussion in
comp.lang.ada in the past month was your previous cross-posting.

Re: blacklist

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 03:35:58 -0600, "E. Robert Tisdale"
<edwin@netwood.net> wrote:

>I have been considering maintaining and publishing
>a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
>The blacklist data base would contain the names
>of subscribers who post off-topic articles
>to the newsgroup.
>New subscribers and infrequent contributors
>to the newsgroup would be advised
>to consult the blacklist data base before responding
>to articles posted in the newsgroup.
>There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
>upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
>except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
>That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

E,

This suggestion is off-topic.

John

Forgery

[E. Robert Tisdale]

"E. Robert Tisdale" wrote:

> I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> The blacklist data base would contain the names
> of subscribers who post off-topic articles
> to the newsgroup.
> New subscribers and infrequent contributors
> to the newsgroup would be advised
> to consult the blacklist data base before responding
> to articles posted in the newsgroup.
> There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
> upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
> except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
> That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

I didn't post this message in any of the above newsgroups.

Re: blacklist

[wiseguy.invalid]

E. Robert Tisdale wrote:
>
>
>I have been considering maintaining and publishing
>a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
>The blacklist data base would contain the names
>of subscribers who post off-topic articles
>to the newsgroup.
>New subscribers and infrequent contributors
>to the newsgroup would be advised
>to consult the blacklist data base before responding
>to articles posted in the newsgroup.
>There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
>upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
>except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
>That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

(Crossposted to:
comp.arch.arithmetic,  comp.lang.fortran,    comp.lang.c++,
comp.arch.embedded,    comp.lang.ada,        sci.math.num-analysis,
comp.dsp,              rec.scuba.equipment,  alt.tv.days-of-our-lives)

=====================================================

1. USENET FISH TALES -- HOW TO AVOID BEING TROLLED


Any fisherman can tell you about trolling -- you cast out your line and 
slowly drag it along, waiting for some fish to come along and grab the 
bait and get hooked.% 
It's a time-honored tradition on Usenet as well, one that newcomers can 
easily find themselves ensnared in, often to their dismay (and the 
delight of the allegedly more experienced trollers who catch them). 


1.1 BAITING THE HOOK


The basic idea behind Usenet trolling is to post a ridiculous message and 
then sit back and watch as newcomers (and some veterans) try to tear into 
it. A really simple troll might be to post a message in a Star Trek 
newsgroup telling participants to get a life, or to post something like 
"101 Uses for a Dead Cat" in rec.pets.cats. If the troller's lucky, people 
will rise to his flame bait, sometimes so vehemently that the newsgroup 
becomes engulfed in a flamewar that completely drowns out all other 
discussions.


Veteran trollers, however, usually display more subtlety than that. 
Sometimes, they start out with seemingly innocuous postings. Over a 
period of days, however, their messages grow more strident. And as people 
begin to argue with them, the game is on. Sometimes, trollers will go 
after a single person they know will bite hard on the proferred bait 
(that they know this often indicates that the trollee has, himself, 
displayed some behavior others might find objectionable).


This is what happened recently in a flamefest that erupted on several 
groups simultaneously. One well known net.personality responded to some 
post from a person he finds objectionable with a message that read:

You'll be pleased to know, then, that you have been added to the USENET 
Global Killfile, a list of objectionable users whose articles will 
automatically be blocked by subscribing sites. At the present, the list 
of sites which comply with the
USENET Global Killfile is approximately 82%. <


Your messages will continue to be transmitted from site to site so that 
the non-GK using sites will still see them, but users on participating 
sites will not be troubled with your messages popping up in their 
newsgroups. 


The "Organization" line of the header read: 
"USENET Central Administration."


The "fish" took the bait, loudly decrying this latest offense by the 
Usenet Cabal, the secret group that really runs Usenet. So, too, did a 
number of innocent bystanders, who publicly complained about this 
egregious attempt at Net-wide censorship. It got worse and worse. 
Finally, the subject of the troll posted a message in which he claimed 
the original poster had forged the original message from himself and 
that because of this fraud, he had visited his local FBI office, where 
a sympathetic agent took copious notes on this awful abuse. At this 
point, several people jumped into the conversation to tell the person 
he'd been the subject of a practical joke and to give it a rest (to no 
avail). 


1.2 AVOIDING THE WORM


The troller left several clues in his message that it was all a joke. 
The most obvious one was its sheer ludicrousness. Given the number of 
Usenet systems out there today, the likelihood of getting 82% of them 
to agree on anything -- especially something like a universal censor 
system -- is remote. 


The more subtle clue was the list of newsgroups to which the troller 
posted. The last one on the list was misc.test. Now, this is a 
newsgroup set up so people can test their Usenet connections. There 
are a number of Usenet systems around the world that respond to any 
postings in that group with e-mail, letting the poster know where and 
when her message was received. So if you see a posting in a Usenet 
group that is cross-posted to misc.test, right away you've got a pretty 
strong indication that the message is really a troll (as well as an 
indication that, if you follow up to the post, you're going to start 
getting all these e-mail messages from auto-responding Usenet systems).



So what do you do? If you see a message in your favorite newsgroup that 
looks like the sender is just crusin' for a bruisin', first, count to 10. 
Just because you *can* reply doesn't mean you have to. Remember that the 
best way to deal with annoying on-line people is to ignore them -- they 
thrive on making others irate. Check the line in the header that says 
which newsgroups the message has been posted to. If there are a number of 
them, think to 10 again -- do you really want to start a cross-newsgroup 
flamefest where all the groups get taken over by "get this crap out of 
this newsgroup" messages?


If you feel you simply HAVE to respond in public, pare down the list of 
newsgroups. In most Usenet editors, that's fairly easy to do -- go up to 
the "Newsgroups" line and delete the names of newsgroups to which the 
message is really inappropriate (including misc.test, alt.test, etc.). 
Be careful to keep the remaining names separated by a comma (but no 
spaces). And flame away. But count to 10 again, anyway. 

Re: blacklist

[S. Peck]

If you are using Outlook or Outlook Express, just use the "Block Sender"
from the Tools menu.  No need for public black lists.

E. Robert Tisdale <edwin@netwood.net> wrote in message
news:8no8ng$jjn$0@pita.alt.net...
> I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> The blacklist data base would contain the names
> of subscribers who post off-topic articles
> to the newsgroup.
> New subscribers and infrequent contributors
> to the newsgroup would be advised
> to consult the blacklist data base before responding
> to articles posted in the newsgroup.
> There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
> upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
> except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
> That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

Re: blacklist

[Chris Hills]

Black lists and witch hunting  are way off topic. Please put yourself at
the top of the list and refrain from posting to the NG again. 

As a user of the ONE TRUE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE, C! I
believe any post that does not mention C, or worse still mentions Mod2
or the arch antichrist ADA should be black listed as well...  (and the
miss guided souls who insist on using an RTOS)

Those who use C and  put the curly brackets in the wrong place will be
tolerated for two posts in the hope that they may be converted to the
One True Style of Curly Bracket Placement. 

Whilst we are on the subject perhaps we should also guard against
Commies (they get everywhere) Jews, Catholics, gays and just to show
balance,( because were are sane moral people)  ban the right wing,
BNP, C18, NF, KKK, rapists, drugs dealers, girl scouts  and
foreigners ..... 

Then there are the Liberals and stamp collectors.... never been sure
about them.
 
Perhaps we should get everyone to complete a full questionnaire before
they are permitted to use this PUBLIC and UN-MODERATED NG!

Sorry..... haven't been on a soap box for a while... I'm feeling a bit dizzy
I think I will go and have a lie down.....

If you still want a black list why don't you run 
comp.arch.embedded.moderated 
and do the moderation yourself. You will see how popular your idea is
by the number of people who support you. It should not be a bit task to
moderate it :-)


E. Robert Tisdale <edwin@netwood.net> writes
>I have been considering maintaining and publishing
>a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
>The blacklist data base would contain the names
>of subscribers who post off-topic articles
>to the newsgroup.
>New subscribers and infrequent contributors
>to the newsgroup would be advised
>to consult the blacklist data base before responding
>to articles posted in the newsgroup.
>There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
>upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
>except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
>That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England    /\/\/\/\/\
/\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org       www.phaedsys.org \/\/
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Re: blacklist

[Grant Edwards]

In article <8no8ng$jjn$0@pita.alt.net>, E. Robert Tisdale wrote:

>I have been considering maintaining and publishing
>a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.

Oh good, the net.police are here.

Whatever.

--
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Hey, wait a
                                  at               minute!! I want a
                               visi.com            divorce!!... you're not
                                                   Clint Eastwood!!

Re: Forgery

[Josh Sebastian]

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:58:28 +0000, "E. Robert Tisdale"
<edwin@netwood.net> wrote:

>"E. Robert Tisdale" wrote:
>
>> I have been considering maintaining and publishing
>> a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
>> The blacklist data base would contain the names
>> of subscribers who post off-topic articles
>> to the newsgroup.
>> New subscribers and infrequent contributors
>> to the newsgroup would be advised
>> to consult the blacklist data base before responding
>> to articles posted in the newsgroup.
>> There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
>> upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
>> except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
>> That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.
>
>I didn't post this message in any of the above newsgroups.
>

I believe that Mr. Tisdale did not post the message titled
"Blacklist". If you look at the message headers, you can see several
important differences from the message headers in Mr. Tisdale's
"normal" posts.

Discrepancy #1:
The timezone is different.

Discrepancy #2:
The message-id is different.

Discrepancy #3:
There are fewer HTTP fields in the "Blacklist" header (implying a
different newsreader).

In fact, the only similarities between the header for "Blacklist" and
the headers from Mr. Tisdale's usual posts are the ones that are
easily forged by a novice.

Despite your personal opinion of Mr. Tisdale, slander is totally
uncalled for.


_______

"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation.

Josh Sebastian
<curien@earthlink.net>

Re: blacklist

[Josh Sebastian]

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 03:35:58 -0600, "E. Robert Tisdale"
<edwin@netwood.net> wrote:

>I have been considering maintaining and publishing
>a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
>The blacklist data base would contain the names
>of subscribers who post off-topic articles
>to the newsgroup.
>New subscribers and infrequent contributors
>to the newsgroup would be advised
>to consult the blacklist data base before responding
>to articles posted in the newsgroup.
>There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
>upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
>except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
>That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

I believe that Mr. Tisdale did not post this message. If you look at
the message headers, you can see several important differences from
the message headers in Mr. Tisdale's "normal" posts.

Discrepancy #1:
The timezone is different.

Discrepancy #2:
The message-id is different.

Discrepancy #3:
There are fewer HTTP fields in the "Blacklist" header (implying a
different newsreader).

In fact, the only similarities between the header for "Blacklist" and
the headers from Mr. Tisdale's usual posts are the ones that are
easily forged by a novice.

Despite your personal opinion of Mr. Tisdale, slander is totally
uncalled for.


_______

"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation.

Josh Sebastian
<curien@earthlink.net>

Re: Forgery

[Jason O'Rourke]

Michael Menten  <mmenten@nospam.com> wrote:
>> I didn't post this message in any of the above newsgroups.
>
>Mr. Tisdale says he did not post the original message.  However, he does
>maintain just such a blacklist on his existing website,
>http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/sci/astro/blacklist.html.

And it's just as lame as the posting, regardless of where it came from.  

"Do not respond to them. Just ignore them. Just put their names in your
kill file if you can't ignore them. Otherwise, your name may end up on
this blacklist and in every subscriber's kill file"


--
Jason O'Rourke  jor@best.com   www.jor.com
Last dive @ Aquarium Intake, Monterey.  55 mins @ 53ft depth max

Re: Forgery

[Michael Menten]

"E. Robert Tisdale" wrote:
> 
> "E. Robert Tisdale" wrote:
> 
> > I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> > a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
[...]
>
> I didn't post this message in any of the above newsgroups.

Mr. Tisdale says he did not post the original message.  However, he does
maintain just such a blacklist on his existing website,
http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/sci/astro/blacklist.html.

-M. Menten

Re: blacklist

[Frank Bemelman]

E. Robert Tisdale <edwin@netwood.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
8no8ng$jjn$0@pita.alt.net...
> I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> The blacklist data base would contain the names
> of subscribers who post off-topic articles
> to the newsgroup.
> New subscribers and infrequent contributors
> to the newsgroup would be advised
> to consult the blacklist data base before responding
> to articles posted in the newsgroup.
> There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
> upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
> except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
> That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

Since this is totally off-topic, you can put yourself
at #1 position of your blacklist.


--
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Frank Bemelman
(reageren per email ? verwijder dan de 'x' uit mijn emailadres)

Re: Forgery

[Edward]

why would anyone impersonate Mr. Tisdale?

and two newsgroups do stand out on the list, days of our lives and scuba
equipment.


Who is Mr. Tisdale, is he famous or sumfin?

Re: Forgery

[Edward]

rfbrw <rfbrw@netscapeonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:39a08e1b$1_2@einstien.netscapeonline.co.uk...
> Good grief man, you mean you've never heard of E-Bob,
> the well known scourge of comp.dsp????
>                          ray

nope... did he do something spectacular?



and who would be blacklisted from rec.scuba.equipment and
alt.tv.days-of-our-lives??? would they incur the blacklist by talking about,
oh I dunno... space equipments and bold and the beautiful characters?

Re: blacklist

[Shag me rotten, baby!]

Someone tried that once, then everyone wanted to be on the list.
Hey, if you're not on the "A LIST", what's the point of even existing.
Add me to that alternate gray list, please.

E. Robert Tisdale <edwin@netwood.net> wrote in message
news:8no8ng$jjn$0@pita.alt.net...
> I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> The blacklist data base would contain the names
> of subscribers who post off-topic articles
> to the newsgroup.
> New subscribers and infrequent contributors
> to the newsgroup would be advised
> to consult the blacklist data base before responding
> to articles posted in the newsgroup.
> There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
> upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
> except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
> That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

Re: blacklist

[Shag me rotten, baby!]

Hey - watch your mouth!  Or I'll get you added to the purple list for a
probationary period.
Then you're on to black list after that!

Grant Edwards <nobody@nowhere.nohow> wrote in message
news:slrn8q08cn.766.nobody@isis.visi.com...
> In article <8no8ng$jjn$0@pita.alt.net>, E. Robert Tisdale wrote:
>
> >I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> >a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
>
> Oh good, the net.police are here.
>
> Whatever.
>
> --
> Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Hey, wait a
>                                   at               minute!! I want a
>                                visi.com            divorce!!... you're not
>                                                    Clint Eastwood!!

Re: blacklist

[Shag me rotten, baby!]

Oh me!  Pick me!  I've always wanted a black belt!
(Uh, wha?  Oh, black "list", not black "belt".  Okay, I'll ask not to join.)

Re: Forgery

[rfbrw]

Good grief man, you mean you've never heard of E-Bob,
the well known scourge of comp.dsp????
                         ray

Edward <archon@supernetnospampower.com> wrote in message
news:8npqtj$su$1@newton3.pacific.net.sg...
> why would anyone impersonate Mr. Tisdale?
>
> and two newsgroups do stand out on the list, days of our lives and scuba
> equipment.
>
>
> Who is Mr. Tisdale, is he famous or sumfin?
>
>

Re: Forgery

[E. Robert Tisdale]

E. Robert Tisdale wrote: 

> "E. Robert Tisdale" wrote:
> 
> > I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> > a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> > The blacklist data base would contain the names
> > of subscribers who post off-topic articles
> > to the newsgroup.
> > New subscribers and infrequent contributors
> > to the newsgroup would be advised
> > to consult the blacklist data base before responding
> > to articles posted in the newsgroup.
> > There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
> > upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
> > except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
> > That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.
> 
> I didn't post this message in any of the above newsgroups.

I didn't post this message in any of the above newsgroups.

-- 

Troll in my group, lose your account.
Its that fucking simple

http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/sci/astro/blacklist.html
http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/comp/dsp/blacklist.html

Re: blacklist

[E. Robert Tisdale]

Shag me rotten, baby! wrote: 

> Hey - watch your mouth!  Or I'll get you added to the purple list for a
> probationary period.
> Then you're on to black list after that!

Another top-posting asshole.

> Grant Edwards <nobody@nowhere.nohow> wrote in message
> news:slrn8q08cn.766.nobody@isis.visi.com...
> > In article <8no8ng$jjn$0@pita.alt.net>, E. Robert Tisdale wrote:
> >
> > >I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> > >a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> >
> > Oh good, the net.police are here.
> >
> > Whatever.
> >
> > --
> > Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Hey, wait a
> >                                   at               minute!! I want a
> >                                visi.com            divorce!!... you're not
> >                                                    Clint Eastwood!!
> 
> 
> 

-- 

Troll in my group, lose your account.
Its that fucking simple

http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/sci/astro/blacklist.html
http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/comp/dsp/blacklist.html

Re: blacklist

[Shag me rotten, baby!]

Uh oh!  That kind of language is going to get you on that gray list, and
eventually black list.
Hmmm . . . Mt. Rogers would never be so happy with that!

Hey Tisdale - LIGHTEN UP, BABY!  FLOW WITH IT, MAN!  TAKE IT EASY, BROTHER!
CHILL OUT, MY MAN!


E. Robert Tisdale <edwin@natwood.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.140bde043bdd0491989923@natwood.net...
> Shag me rotten, baby! wrote:
>
> > Hey - watch your mouth!  Or I'll get you added to the purple list for a
> > probationary period.
> > Then you're on to black list after that!
>
> Another top-posting asshole.
>
> > Grant Edwards <nobody@nowhere.nohow> wrote in message
> > news:slrn8q08cn.766.nobody@isis.visi.com...
> > > In article <8no8ng$jjn$0@pita.alt.net>, E. Robert Tisdale wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> > > >a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> > >
> > > Oh good, the net.police are here.
> > >
> > > Whatever.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Hey, wait a
> > >                                   at               minute!! I want a
> > >                                visi.com            divorce!!... you're
not
> > >                                                    Clint Eastwood!!
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Troll in my group, lose your account.
> Its that fucking simple
>
> http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/sci/astro/blacklist.html
> http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/comp/dsp/blacklist.html

Re: blacklist

[Freakologist Society]

Oh, gosh!  I should be slapped..  You are right.  It is the double-secret
first before black list.
I am so ashamed.

SPEEDOH TEAM LEADER <Poopoocatapult@hawaiifiveo.au> wrote in message
news:8nspr5$69j$6@pita.alt.net...
> Shag me rotten, baby! (ggilbert@prsguitars.com) posted this message:
> > Hey - watch your mouth!  Or I'll get you added to the purple list for a
> > probationary period.
> > Then you're on to black list after that!
> >
> > Grant Edwards <nobody@nowhere.nohow> wrote in message
> > news:slrn8q08cn.766.nobody@isis.visi.com...
> > > In article <8no8ng$jjn$0@pita.alt.net>, E. Robert Tisdale wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> > > >a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> > >
> > > Oh good, the net.police are here.
> > >
> > > Whatever.
>
> We thought that one went to the double-secret purple list before going to
> the black list. This is not so?
> --
> Warmest personal regards,
>
> Jean-Paul Belmondo and Suzi Quant
> Hydro and Mining Prospectors and Dance Artistes
> Pioneers of Lemurian and Atlantean Mining
> http://www.poglio.com/welleda/
> The Greatest Islamic Swindle Of The 8Th Century
> http://www.poglio.com/horus1st/
> Refutation Of The Horrid Japanese Mothra Myths

Re: Forgery

[E. Robert Tisdale]

Jason O'Rourke wrote: 

> E. Robert Tisdale  <edwin@natwood.net> wrote:
> >Troll in my group, lose your account.
> >Its that fucking simple
> >
> >http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/sci/astro/blacklist.html
> >http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/comp/dsp/blacklist.html
> 
> You are one silly little man.  It's a good thing you don't really roam
> around in rec.scuba; you couldn't wear the jocks of the people we ridicule
> away.  

Just what is it that you put in those tanks, anyway?   

You sound like you are breathing oven cleaner.

-- 

Troll in my group, lose your account.
Its that fucking simple

http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/sci/astro/blacklist.html
http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/comp/dsp/blacklist.html

Re: Forgery

[Jason O'Rourke]

E. Robert Tisdale  <edwin@natwood.net> wrote:
>Troll in my group, lose your account.
>Its that fucking simple
>
>http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/sci/astro/blacklist.html
>http://www.netwood.net/~edwin/comp/dsp/blacklist.html

You are one silly little man.  It's a good thing you don't really roam
around in rec.scuba; you couldn't wear the jocks of the people we ridicule
away.  
--
Jason O'Rourke  jor@best.com   www.jor.com
Last dive @ Aquarium Intake, Monterey.  55 mins @ 53ft depth max

Re: blacklist-blacklist

[Ralph D. Ungermann]

Suggest, we maintain a blacklist of all blacklists, which do not list
themselves.



"E. Robert Tisdale" wrote:
> 
> I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> The blacklist data base would contain the names
> of subscribers who post off-topic articles
> to the newsgroup.
> New subscribers and infrequent contributors
> to the newsgroup would be advised
> to consult the blacklist data base before responding
> to articles posted in the newsgroup.
> There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
> upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
> except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
> That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

Re: Forgery

[Lee Bell]

E. Robert Tisdale wrote

> Jason O'Rourke wrote:

> > You are one silly little man.  It's a good thing you don't really roam
> > around in rec.scuba; you couldn't wear the jocks of the people we
ridicule
> > away.

> Just what is it that you put in those tanks, anyway?
> You sound like you are breathing oven cleaner.

We tried it, but found it didn't give us as much bottom time, required more
frequent maintenance of tanks and other equipment and wasn't buoyant enough
when used to inflate a BC.

Lee

Re: blacklist

[Jim Patterson]

Couldn't you have at least waited one more day to post your message?  Then
the post you were responding to would have been a full month old.  :-)

--
Jim Patterson


Josh Sebastian <curien@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:39a02a94.55434150@news.earthlink.net...
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 03:35:58 -0600, "E. Robert Tisdale"
> <edwin@netwood.net> wrote:
>
> >I have been considering maintaining and publishing
> >a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
> >The blacklist data base would contain the names
> >of subscribers who post off-topic articles
> >to the newsgroup.
> >New subscribers and infrequent contributors
> >to the newsgroup would be advised
> >to consult the blacklist data base before responding
> >to articles posted in the newsgroup.
> >There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
> >upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
> >except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
> >That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.
>
> I believe that Mr. Tisdale did not post this message. If you look at
> the message headers, you can see several important differences from
> the message headers in Mr. Tisdale's "normal" posts.
>
> Discrepancy #1:
> The timezone is different.
>
> Discrepancy #2:
> The message-id is different.
>
> Discrepancy #3:
> There are fewer HTTP fields in the "Blacklist" header (implying a
> different newsreader).
>
> In fact, the only similarities between the header for "Blacklist" and
> the headers from Mr. Tisdale's usual posts are the ones that are
> easily forged by a novice.
>
> Despite your personal opinion of Mr. Tisdale, slander is totally
> uncalled for.
> _______
>
> "Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields falsehood when
preceded by its quotation.
>
> Josh Sebastian
> <curien@earthlink.net>

Re: blacklist

[Josh Sebastian]

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 03:35:58 -0600, "E. Robert Tisdale"
<edwin@netwood.net> wrote:

>I have been considering maintaining and publishing
>a blacklist data base for this newsgroup.
>The blacklist data base would contain the names
>of subscribers who post off-topic articles
>to the newsgroup.
>New subscribers and infrequent contributors
>to the newsgroup would be advised
>to consult the blacklist data base before responding
>to articles posted in the newsgroup.
>There would be, of course, no penalty imposed
>upon subscribers who respond off-topic articles
>except the penalty imposed by the blacklistee.
>That is to say, the blacklist would be self enforcing.

I believe that Mr. Tisdale did not post this message. If you look at
the message headers, you can see several important differences from
the message headers in Mr. Tisdale's "normal" posts.

Discrepancy #1:
The timezone is different.

Discrepancy #2:
The message-id is different.

Discrepancy #3:
There are fewer HTTP fields in the "Blacklist" header (implying a
different newsreader).

In fact, the only similarities between the header for "Blacklist" and
the headers from Mr. Tisdale's usual posts are the ones that are
easily forged by a novice.

Despite your personal opinion of Mr. Tisdale, slander is totally
uncalled for.
_______

"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation.

Josh Sebastian
<curien@earthlink.net>