From: Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org>
Subject: Re: GCC 4.0 Ada.Containers Cursor danger.
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:59:15 +0100
Date: 2005-07-12T22:59:15+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2wtnvbs98.fsf@grendel.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1121195712.513120.70330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
"Matthew Heaney" <mheaney@on2.com> writes:
> But ordered (sorted) sets and maps are the basis of the C++
> container library, and no one has complained so far...
The BCs have (only) hash-based sets & maps; if you iterate over them
you will get the elements back in an order that is not going to be a
lot of use to you. In fact it will look pretty random (depends on how
good your hash function is, of course).
Seems there's a fundamental problem with the words here. On one side,
folk like me think that 'ordered' and 'sorted' are very close in
meaning and 'unordered' and 'unsorted' ditto. On the other, folk like
you (and the ARG?) think that 'ordered' means something like 'having
an internal mechanism that can be relied on to support efficient
access'. We really don't see how this meaning can be supported!
Of course, we are all in favour of efficient implementations ...
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2005-07-04 11:01 GCC 4.0 Ada.Containers Cursor danger Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-04 18:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-04 19:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-05 4:27 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-05 15:01 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-06 9:10 ` Maxim Reznik
2005-07-06 10:45 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-06 13:57 ` Maxim Reznik
2005-07-06 14:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-06 15:09 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-06 16:37 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 16:43 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-06 22:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-07 10:23 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-07-06 12:41 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-06 15:37 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-06 21:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-05 14:51 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-05 17:11 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-05 18:02 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-05 19:08 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-05 19:26 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-05 19:44 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-05 20:06 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-06 2:10 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 22:44 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-07 3:41 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-07 19:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-08 3:01 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-09 6:17 ` Simon Wright
2005-07-11 2:24 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-11 2:24 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 5:52 ` Martin Dowie
2005-07-06 7:02 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 8:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-06 8:37 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 9:06 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-06 12:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-06 7:53 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-06 8:44 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 9:03 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-06 9:34 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 9:42 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-06 9:45 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 10:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-06 16:22 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 16:42 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-06 16:59 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 17:12 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-06 18:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-07 12:29 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-07 12:46 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-07 13:01 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-07 13:20 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-07 13:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-07 17:56 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-07 22:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-15 18:03 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-16 1:45 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-17 3:55 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-17 4:29 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-07 19:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-08 2:41 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 22:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-06 22:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-07 0:24 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-07 3:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-06 7:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-06 7:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-06 8:11 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-06 11:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-06 12:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-06 23:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-07 8:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-07 10:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-07 13:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-07 13:41 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-07 22:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-08 8:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-08 10:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-08 13:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-08 13:31 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-10 2:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-10 8:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-11 10:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-11 12:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-11 13:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-11 18:38 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-12 8:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-12 10:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-12 20:38 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-08 13:15 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-08 14:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-08 14:52 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-11 14:57 ` MMM
2005-07-11 18:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-12 2:11 ` MMM
2005-07-12 21:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-13 4:31 ` MMM
2005-07-13 1:15 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-13 2:46 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-14 4:11 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2005-07-14 12:44 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-19 1:38 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2005-07-19 3:21 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-14 23:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-15 8:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-15 10:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-15 14:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-15 12:10 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-19 3:51 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2005-07-19 11:35 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-19 3:11 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2005-07-19 12:44 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-20 5:20 ` Simon Wright
2005-07-21 2:39 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-21 3:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-19 23:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-20 15:33 ` Robert A Duff
2005-07-11 14:56 ` MMM
2005-07-11 23:24 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-12 3:05 ` MMM
2005-07-12 5:32 ` Simon Wright
2005-07-13 2:41 ` MMM
2005-07-12 11:16 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-16 22:28 ` Robert A Duff
2005-07-12 13:32 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-07-12 14:51 ` MMM
2005-07-12 15:35 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-12 18:40 ` MMM
2005-07-12 19:12 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-12 19:42 ` MMM
2005-07-12 20:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-13 3:52 ` MMM
2005-07-12 20:13 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-12 21:38 ` Simon Wright
2005-07-12 17:44 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-07-12 18:51 ` MMM
2005-07-12 19:15 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-12 19:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-13 2:20 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-12 20:00 ` MMM
2005-07-12 20:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-12 20:15 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-12 21:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-13 4:16 ` MMM
2005-07-19 23:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-12 21:59 ` Simon Wright [this message]
2005-07-12 20:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-14 5:01 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2005-07-20 0:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-07 12:36 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-07 12:52 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-07 13:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-07 17:49 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-07 18:35 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-08 17:52 ` Craig Carey
2005-07-07 17:50 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-07 19:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-08 2:28 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-09 14:20 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-10 1:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-10 5:46 ` Craig Carey
2005-07-10 6:13 ` Craig Carey
2005-07-11 17:33 ` OT: Greg and Colin? (was Re: GCC 4.0 Ada.Containers Cursor danger.) Marc A. Criley
2005-07-06 22:34 ` GCC 4.0 Ada.Containers Cursor danger Randy Brukardt
2005-07-07 0:22 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-07 3:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-08 5:34 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-07-10 1:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-10 19:32 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-07-07 3:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-16 23:24 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-17 4:04 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-17 5:01 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-17 17:13 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-17 17:36 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-17 17:49 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-17 18:12 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-17 17:40 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-17 17:50 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2005-07-17 18:08 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-19 4:36 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2005-07-20 1:59 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-20 14:00 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-20 14:34 ` Matthew Heaney
2005-07-20 16:51 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-20 16:53 ` Pascal Obry
2005-07-21 3:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-20 2:37 ` Robert I. Eachus
2005-08-02 16:59 ` Craig Carey
2005-08-02 20:55 ` Simon Wright
2005-07-20 7:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-17 9:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-17 14:26 ` Matthew Heaney
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