* Strict aliasing, is it OK?
@ 2017-07-04 17:49 Victor Porton
2017-07-04 17:50 ` Victor Porton
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From: Victor Porton @ 2017-07-04 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
I've started an ambitious open source project:
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces
I am going to implement it in Ada.
Note the file
https://github.com/vporton/redland-bindings/blob/ada2012/ada/src/rdf-raptor-parser.adb
Here is an extract from my code:
type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record;
function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description (Parser: Handle_Type) return My_Dummy_Access
with Import, Convention=>C, External_Name=>"raptor_parser_get_description";
function Get_Description (Parser: Parser_Type) return RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type is
function Conv is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion(My_Dummy_Access, RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type);
begin
return Conv( C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description(Get_Handle(Parser)) );
end;
When I compile this:
$ (cd src && gnatgcc -gnatf -c -fPIC -g -O2 -gnat2012 rdf-raptor-parser.adb)
rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: possible aliasing problem for type "Syntax_Description_Type"
rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: use -fno-strict-aliasing switch for references
rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: or use "pragma No_Strict_Aliasing (Syntax_Description_Type);"
I am not sure if it is OK to insert pragma No_Strict_Aliasing into my code.
GNAT Users Guide is cryptic. The only thing I understood for sure is that
sometimes strict aliasing may cause a trouble. I am not sure if this is a case
with my code. My code looks quite innocent, so I feel my idea will not be
broken by the compiler, but I am not sure. Please help.
--
Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 17:49 Strict aliasing, is it OK? Victor Porton
@ 2017-07-04 17:50 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-04 18:06 ` Victor Porton
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From: Victor Porton @ 2017-07-04 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Victor Porton wrote:
> I've started an ambitious open source project:
> https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces
>
> I am going to implement it in Ada.
>
> Note the file
>
> https://github.com/vporton/redland-bindings/blob/ada2012/ada/src/rdf-raptor-parser.adb
>
> Here is an extract from my code:
>
> type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record;
>
> function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description (Parser: Handle_Type) return
> My_Dummy_Access
> with Import, Convention=>C,
> External_Name=>"raptor_parser_get_description";
>
> function Get_Description (Parser: Parser_Type) return
> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type is
> function Conv is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion(My_Dummy_Access,
> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type);
> begin
> return Conv( C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description(Get_Handle(Parser)) );
> end;
>
>
> When I compile this:
>
> $ (cd src && gnatgcc -gnatf -c -fPIC -g -O2 -gnat2012
> rdf-raptor-parser.adb) rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: possible
> aliasing problem for type "Syntax_Description_Type"
> rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: use -fno-strict-aliasing switch for
> references rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: or use "pragma
> No_Strict_Aliasing (Syntax_Description_Type);"
>
> I am not sure if it is OK to insert pragma No_Strict_Aliasing into my
> code.
>
> GNAT Users Guide is cryptic. The only thing I understood for sure is that
> sometimes strict aliasing may cause a trouble. I am not sure if this is a
> case with my code. My code looks quite innocent, so I feel my idea will
> not be broken by the compiler, but I am not sure. Please help.
Note that "handles" in my code a "C" conventions accesses to C records.
--
Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 17:49 Strict aliasing, is it OK? Victor Porton
2017-07-04 17:50 ` Victor Porton
@ 2017-07-04 18:06 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-04 18:15 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-07-04 21:41 ` Simon Wright
3 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Victor Porton @ 2017-07-04 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Victor Porton wrote:
> I've started an ambitious open source project:
> https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces
>
> I am going to implement it in Ada.
>
> Note the file
>
> https://github.com/vporton/redland-bindings/blob/ada2012/ada/src/rdf-raptor-parser.adb
>
> Here is an extract from my code:
>
> type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record;
>
> function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description (Parser: Handle_Type) return
> My_Dummy_Access
> with Import, Convention=>C,
> External_Name=>"raptor_parser_get_description";
>
> function Get_Description (Parser: Parser_Type) return
> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type is
> function Conv is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion(My_Dummy_Access,
> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type);
> begin
> return Conv( C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description(Get_Handle(Parser)) );
> end;
I've added (bug fix)
with Convention=>C
after
type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record
> When I compile this:
>
> $ (cd src && gnatgcc -gnatf -c -fPIC -g -O2 -gnat2012
> rdf-raptor-parser.adb) rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: possible
> aliasing problem for type "Syntax_Description_Type"
> rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: use -fno-strict-aliasing switch for
> references rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: or use "pragma
> No_Strict_Aliasing (Syntax_Description_Type);"
>
> I am not sure if it is OK to insert pragma No_Strict_Aliasing into my
> code.
>
> GNAT Users Guide is cryptic. The only thing I understood for sure is that
> sometimes strict aliasing may cause a trouble. I am not sure if this is a
> case with my code. My code looks quite innocent, so I feel my idea will
> not be broken by the compiler, but I am not sure. Please help.
>
--
Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 17:49 Strict aliasing, is it OK? Victor Porton
2017-07-04 17:50 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-04 18:06 ` Victor Porton
@ 2017-07-04 18:15 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-07-04 18:30 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-04 21:41 ` Simon Wright
3 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Niklas Holsti @ 2017-07-04 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 17-07-04 20:49 , Victor Porton wrote:
> I've started an ambitious open source project:
> https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces
>
> I am going to implement it in Ada.
>
> Note the file
>
> https://github.com/vporton/redland-bindings/blob/ada2012/ada/src/rdf-raptor-parser.adb
>
> Here is an extract from my code:
>
> type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record;
>
> function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description (Parser: Handle_Type) return My_Dummy_Access
> with Import, Convention=>C, External_Name=>"raptor_parser_get_description";
>
> function Get_Description (Parser: Parser_Type) return RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type is
> function Conv is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion(My_Dummy_Access, RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type);
> begin
> return Conv( C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description(Get_Handle(Parser)) );
> end;
>
>
> When I compile this:
>
> $ (cd src && gnatgcc -gnatf -c -fPIC -g -O2 -gnat2012 rdf-raptor-parser.adb)
> rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: possible aliasing problem for type "Syntax_Description_Type"
> rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: use -fno-strict-aliasing switch for references
> rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: or use "pragma No_Strict_Aliasing (Syntax_Description_Type);"
>
> I am not sure if it is OK to insert pragma No_Strict_Aliasing into my code.
>
> GNAT Users Guide is cryptic.
To me the GNAT UG
(https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-7.1.0/gnat_ugn.pdf#f3) seems very clear.
> The only thing I understood for sure is that sometimes strict
> aliasing may cause a trouble.
The question is whether your program uses Unchecked_Conversion (or some
other unchecked tricks) to make a variable of type "access SomeType"
point to an object that is not of the type "SomeType".
Your instances of Unchecked_Conversion make GNAT suspect that your
program might do such things. GNAT is warning you that your program
would then violate the assumptions that underlie some of GNAT's code
optimizations when the "strict aliasing" option is on, which means that
the optimized code might not behave in the way you expect. The User
Guide has an example of such unexpected behaviour.
> I am not sure if this is a case
> with my code. My code looks quite innocent, so I feel my idea will not be
> broken by the compiler, but I am not sure. Please help.
Just ask yourself if, in your program, an "access SomeType" always
points to "SomeType". If so, you should be ok. If not, or if you are
unsure, it is safer to use the pragma or compiler option that GNAT
suggests; your program is then more likely to work as you want it to.
--
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
niklas holsti tidorum fi
. @ .
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 18:15 ` Niklas Holsti
@ 2017-07-04 18:30 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-04 19:29 ` Niklas Holsti
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Victor Porton @ 2017-07-04 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Niklas Holsti wrote:
> On 17-07-04 20:49 , Victor Porton wrote:
>> I've started an ambitious open source project:
>>
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces
>>
>> I am going to implement it in Ada.
>>
>> Note the file
>>
>> https://github.com/vporton/redland-bindings/blob/ada2012/ada/src/rdf-raptor-parser.adb
>>
>> Here is an extract from my code:
>>
>> type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record;
>>
>> function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description (Parser: Handle_Type) return
>> My_Dummy_Access
>> with Import, Convention=>C,
>> External_Name=>"raptor_parser_get_description";
>>
>> function Get_Description (Parser: Parser_Type) return
>> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type is
>> function Conv is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion(My_Dummy_Access,
>> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type);
>> begin
>> return Conv( C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description(Get_Handle(Parser)) );
>> end;
>>
>>
>> When I compile this:
>>
>> $ (cd src && gnatgcc -gnatf -c -fPIC -g -O2 -gnat2012
>> rdf-raptor-parser.adb) rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: possible
>> aliasing problem for type "Syntax_Description_Type"
>> rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: use -fno-strict-aliasing switch
>> for references rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: or use "pragma
>> No_Strict_Aliasing (Syntax_Description_Type);"
>>
>> I am not sure if it is OK to insert pragma No_Strict_Aliasing into my
>> code.
>>
>> GNAT Users Guide is cryptic.
>
> To me the GNAT UG
> (https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-7.1.0/gnat_ugn.pdf#f3) seems very
> clear.
>
>> The only thing I understood for sure is that sometimes strict
>> aliasing may cause a trouble.
>
> The question is whether your program uses Unchecked_Conversion (or some
> other unchecked tricks) to make a variable of type "access SomeType"
> point to an object that is not of the type "SomeType".
>
> Your instances of Unchecked_Conversion make GNAT suspect that your
> program might do such things. GNAT is warning you that your program
> would then violate the assumptions that underlie some of GNAT's code
> optimizations when the "strict aliasing" option is on, which means that
> the optimized code might not behave in the way you expect. The User
> Guide has an example of such unexpected behaviour.
>
>> I am not sure if this is a case
>> with my code. My code looks quite innocent, so I feel my idea will not be
>> broken by the compiler, but I am not sure. Please help.
>
> Just ask yourself if, in your program, an "access SomeType" always
> points to "SomeType". If so, you should be ok. If not, or if you are
> unsure, it is safer to use the pragma or compiler option that GNAT
> suggests; your program is then more likely to work as you want it to.
I posted because I need help.
Please you answer the question:
if, in your program, an "access SomeType" always points to "SomeType"?
Well, I do understand an example of wrong behavior in UG, but I don't know
whether my code is also an example of wrong behavior.
Please help!
--
Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 18:30 ` Victor Porton
@ 2017-07-04 19:29 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-07-04 20:11 ` Victor Porton
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Niklas Holsti @ 2017-07-04 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 17-07-04 21:30 , Victor Porton wrote:
> Niklas Holsti wrote:
>
>> On 17-07-04 20:49 , Victor Porton wrote:
>>> I've started an ambitious open source project:
>>>
> https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces
>>>
>>> I am going to implement it in Ada.
>>>
>>> Note the file
>>>
>>> https://github.com/vporton/redland-bindings/blob/ada2012/ada/src/rdf-raptor-parser.adb
>>>
>>> Here is an extract from my code:
>>>
>>> type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record;
>>>
>>> function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description (Parser: Handle_Type) return
>>> My_Dummy_Access
>>> with Import, Convention=>C,
>>> External_Name=>"raptor_parser_get_description";
>>>
>>> function Get_Description (Parser: Parser_Type) return
>>> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type is
>>> function Conv is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion(My_Dummy_Access,
>>> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type);
>>> begin
>>> return Conv( C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description(Get_Handle(Parser)) );
>>> end;
>>>
>>>
>>> When I compile this:
>>>
>>> $ (cd src && gnatgcc -gnatf -c -fPIC -g -O2 -gnat2012
>>> rdf-raptor-parser.adb) rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: possible
>>> aliasing problem for type "Syntax_Description_Type"
>>> rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: use -fno-strict-aliasing switch
>>> for references rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: or use "pragma
>>> No_Strict_Aliasing (Syntax_Description_Type);"
>>>
>>> I am not sure if it is OK to insert pragma No_Strict_Aliasing into my
>>> code.
>>>
>>> GNAT Users Guide is cryptic.
>>
>> To me the GNAT UG
>> (https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-7.1.0/gnat_ugn.pdf#f3) seems very
>> clear.
>>
>>> The only thing I understood for sure is that sometimes strict
>>> aliasing may cause a trouble.
>>
>> The question is whether your program uses Unchecked_Conversion (or some
>> other unchecked tricks) to make a variable of type "access SomeType"
>> point to an object that is not of the type "SomeType".
>>
>> Your instances of Unchecked_Conversion make GNAT suspect that your
>> program might do such things. GNAT is warning you that your program
>> would then violate the assumptions that underlie some of GNAT's code
>> optimizations when the "strict aliasing" option is on, which means that
>> the optimized code might not behave in the way you expect. The User
>> Guide has an example of such unexpected behaviour.
>>
>>> I am not sure if this is a case
>>> with my code. My code looks quite innocent, so I feel my idea will not be
>>> broken by the compiler, but I am not sure. Please help.
>>
>> Just ask yourself if, in your program, an "access SomeType" always
>> points to "SomeType". If so, you should be ok. If not, or if you are
>> unsure, it is safer to use the pragma or compiler option that GNAT
>> suggests; your program is then more likely to work as you want it to.
>
> I posted because I need help.
I tried to help.
> Please you answer the question:
>
> if, in your program, an "access SomeType" always points to "SomeType"?
It is impossible to answer based on the code you show, because it
depends on what your program _does_ with the Unchecked_Conversion instances.
Note that your imported "C" functions that return access values can also
lead to violation of the strict aliasing assumption, but again depending
on how they are used.
> Well, I do understand an example of wrong behavior in UG.
Good.
> but I don't know
> whether my code is also an example of wrong behavior.
The code you show does not have wrong behaviour, because it is just
function declarations. Wrong behaviour (with respect to the strict
aliasing rule) _may_ happen when you use those functions, but it depends
on _how_ you use them.
As I said, if you cannot answer the question, just follow GNAT's suggestion.
--
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
niklas holsti tidorum fi
. @ .
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 19:29 ` Niklas Holsti
@ 2017-07-04 20:11 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-04 20:13 ` Victor Porton
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Victor Porton @ 2017-07-04 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Niklas Holsti wrote:
> On 17-07-04 21:30 , Victor Porton wrote:
>> Niklas Holsti wrote:
>>
>>> On 17-07-04 20:49 , Victor Porton wrote:
>>>> I've started an ambitious open source project:
>>>>
>>
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Automatic_transformation_of_XML_namespaces
>>>>
>>>> I am going to implement it in Ada.
>>>>
>>>> Note the file
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/vporton/redland-bindings/blob/ada2012/ada/src/rdf-raptor-parser.adb
>>>>
>>>> Here is an extract from my code:
>>>>
>>>> type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record;
>>>>
>>>> function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description (Parser: Handle_Type)
>>>> return My_Dummy_Access
>>>> with Import, Convention=>C,
>>>> External_Name=>"raptor_parser_get_description";
>>>>
>>>> function Get_Description (Parser: Parser_Type) return
>>>> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type is
>>>> function Conv is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion(My_Dummy_Access,
>>>> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type);
>>>> begin
>>>> return Conv( C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description(Get_Handle(Parser))
>>>> );
>>>> end;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I compile this:
>>>>
>>>> $ (cd src && gnatgcc -gnatf -c -fPIC -g -O2 -gnat2012
>>>> rdf-raptor-parser.adb) rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: possible
>>>> aliasing problem for type "Syntax_Description_Type"
>>>> rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: use -fno-strict-aliasing switch
>>>> for references rdf-raptor-parser.adb:132:07: warning: or use "pragma
>>>> No_Strict_Aliasing (Syntax_Description_Type);"
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if it is OK to insert pragma No_Strict_Aliasing into my
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> GNAT Users Guide is cryptic.
>>>
>>> To me the GNAT UG
>>> (https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-7.1.0/gnat_ugn.pdf#f3) seems very
>>> clear.
>>>
>>>> The only thing I understood for sure is that sometimes strict
>>>> aliasing may cause a trouble.
>>>
>>> The question is whether your program uses Unchecked_Conversion (or some
>>> other unchecked tricks) to make a variable of type "access SomeType"
>>> point to an object that is not of the type "SomeType".
>>>
>>> Your instances of Unchecked_Conversion make GNAT suspect that your
>>> program might do such things. GNAT is warning you that your program
>>> would then violate the assumptions that underlie some of GNAT's code
>>> optimizations when the "strict aliasing" option is on, which means that
>>> the optimized code might not behave in the way you expect. The User
>>> Guide has an example of such unexpected behaviour.
>>>
>>>> I am not sure if this is a case
>>>> with my code. My code looks quite innocent, so I feel my idea will not
>>>> be broken by the compiler, but I am not sure. Please help.
>>>
>>> Just ask yourself if, in your program, an "access SomeType" always
>>> points to "SomeType". If so, you should be ok. If not, or if you are
>>> unsure, it is safer to use the pragma or compiler option that GNAT
>>> suggests; your program is then more likely to work as you want it to.
>>
>> I posted because I need help.
>
> I tried to help.
>
>> Please you answer the question:
>>
>> if, in your program, an "access SomeType" always points to "SomeType"?
>
> It is impossible to answer based on the code you show, because it
> depends on what your program _does_ with the Unchecked_Conversion
> instances.
>
> Note that your imported "C" functions that return access values can also
> lead to violation of the strict aliasing assumption, but again depending
> on how they are used.
>
>> Well, I do understand an example of wrong behavior in UG.
>
> Good.
>
>> but I don't know
>> whether my code is also an example of wrong behavior.
>
> The code you show does not have wrong behaviour, because it is just
> function declarations. Wrong behaviour (with respect to the strict
> aliasing rule) _may_ happen when you use those functions, but it depends
> on _how_ you use them.
>
> As I said, if you cannot answer the question, just follow GNAT's
> suggestion.
I do unchecked conversions (in both directions) between Handle_Type and
My_Dummy_Access.
Everytime I refer to Handle_Type, it is real Handle_Type.
But there is several Handle_Type (defined in different packages). Let us
denote them Handle_Type1, Handle_Type2, Handle_Type3, ...
When I refer to My_Dummy_Access it may be any one of Handle_Type1,
Handle_Type2, Handle_Type3, ...
But I never convert Handle_TypeN into Handle_TypeM for N/=M.
I also never use My_Dummy_Access to anything except to convert it into
Handle_TypeX.
Question: Are these restrictions enough for the compiler to the right thing
(that is not something counterintuitive)?
What is the right fix for the warning? Shall I add pragma
No_Strict_Aliasing?
--
Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 20:11 ` Victor Porton
@ 2017-07-04 20:13 ` Victor Porton
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Victor Porton @ 2017-07-04 20:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Victor Porton wrote:
> I do unchecked conversions (in both directions) between Handle_Type and
> My_Dummy_Access.
>
> Everytime I refer to Handle_Type, it is real Handle_Type.
>
> But there is several Handle_Type (defined in different packages). Let us
> denote them Handle_Type1, Handle_Type2, Handle_Type3, ...
>
> When I refer to My_Dummy_Access it may be any one of Handle_Type1,
> Handle_Type2, Handle_Type3, ...
>
> But I never convert Handle_TypeN into Handle_TypeM for N/=M.
>
> I also never use My_Dummy_Access to anything except to convert it into
> Handle_TypeX.
Or (I forgotten that) I also may pass My_Dummy_Access to an imported C
function.
> Question: Are these restrictions enough for the compiler to the right
> thing (that is not something counterintuitive)?
>
> What is the right fix for the warning? Shall I add pragma
> No_Strict_Aliasing?
>
--
Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 17:49 Strict aliasing, is it OK? Victor Porton
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2017-07-04 18:15 ` Niklas Holsti
@ 2017-07-04 21:41 ` Simon Wright
2017-07-04 23:39 ` Victor Porton
3 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Simon Wright @ 2017-07-04 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> writes:
> type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record;
>
> function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description (Parser: Handle_Type) return My_Dummy_Access
> with Import, Convention=>C, External_Name=>"raptor_parser_get_description";
>
> function Get_Description (Parser: Parser_Type) return RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type is
> function Conv is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion(My_Dummy_Access, RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type);
(I _wish_ you could use shorter lines!)
Is an "RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type" actually an "access
constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record"? If so, why not just declare
C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description as returning a
RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type? And if not, what are you
doing returning an unchecked conversion of one to the other?
Your code as it stands is equivalent to
function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description
(Parser : Handle_Type)
return RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type
with
Import,
Convention => C,
External_Name => "raptor_parser_get_description";
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 21:41 ` Simon Wright
@ 2017-07-04 23:39 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-05 9:49 ` Simon Wright
2017-07-08 17:29 ` Robert Eachus
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Victor Porton @ 2017-07-04 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Wright wrote:
> Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> writes:
>
>> type My_Dummy_Access is access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record;
>>
>> function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description (Parser: Handle_Type) return
>> My_Dummy_Access
>> with Import, Convention=>C,
>> External_Name=>"raptor_parser_get_description";
>>
>> function Get_Description (Parser: Parser_Type) return
>> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type is
>> function Conv is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion(My_Dummy_Access,
>> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type);
>
> (I _wish_ you could use shorter lines!)
>
> Is an "RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type" actually an "access
> constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record"? If so, why not just declare
> C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description as returning a
> RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type? And if not, what are you
> doing returning an unchecked conversion of one to the other?
Yes, I already found that this can be simplified (and updated my code at
GitHub).
But my question about my old code remains valid. Is that old code erroneous
or isn't?
By the way,
type Syntax_Description_Type is access constant Syntax_Description_Record
with Convention => C;
This isn't `access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record` but is memory
compatible with it.
> Your code as it stands is equivalent to
>
> function C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description
> (Parser : Handle_Type)
> return RDF.Raptor.Syntaxes.Syntax_Description_Type
> with
> Import,
> Convention => C,
> External_Name => "raptor_parser_get_description";
--
Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 23:39 ` Victor Porton
@ 2017-07-05 9:49 ` Simon Wright
2017-07-08 17:29 ` Robert Eachus
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Simon Wright @ 2017-07-05 9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> writes:
> By the way,
>
> type Syntax_Description_Type is access constant Syntax_Description_Record
> with Convention => C;
>
> This isn't `access constant RDF.Auxiliary.Dummy_Record` but is memory
> compatible with it.
Well, the conventions are different.
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* Re: Strict aliasing, is it OK?
2017-07-04 23:39 ` Victor Porton
2017-07-05 9:49 ` Simon Wright
@ 2017-07-08 17:29 ` Robert Eachus
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Robert Eachus @ 2017-07-08 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 7:40:31 PM UTC-4, Victor Porton wrote:
>
> But my question about my old code remains valid. Is that old code erroneous
> or isn't?
You are probably too new to Ada to remember Norm Cohen preaching about reasoning from erroneousness.
But to limit myself to the case at hand: Is your code erroneous? Can't tell from the excerpts provided, but who cares? The GNAT compiler is nicely telling you that use of C_Raptor_Parser_Get_Description may lead to erroneousness, and offering a nice way to tell the compiler that reasoning from erroneousness here is bad, and must not be done.
From a software engineering standpoint, the best answer is fix the code now, so the issue doesn't come up. The second best is to put in the pragma so that even if your program is fine, some maintenance change won't cause erroneousness and then the compiler commit evil by reasoning either from erroneousness, or from assuming the lack of it.
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