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From: "McDoobie" <chris@dont.spam.me>
Subject: Re: Ada vendors and the art of selling used cars
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 06:45:50 GMT
Date: 2001-08-20T06:45:50+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ym2g7.45548$K6.17757773@news2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3b7fdb8a_2@news3.prserv.net

In article <3b7fdb8a_2@news3.prserv.net>, "Andrzej Lewandowski"
<lewandoREMOVE@attglobal.net> wrote:

> Ada vendors,
> 
> Could you please publish price list of your products?
> 
> With notable exception of R.R. Software that makes the price list
> public, any attempt to know the cost of tools from other vendors results
> in "you will be contacted by our sales representative". The very first
> attempt of such sales representative is investigating the depth of my
> pocket. Usual question is "what for you will be using our product?" that
> generates my standard answer: "not your f...g business".
> 
> It seems that "used car dealer mentality" is the REAL obstacle in making
> Ada more popular than it is.
> 
> A.L.

I second that motion.

I'm checking around for a good Ada development environment, and I wouldnt
mind picking up a copy of GNAT Pro or the Aonix toolchain. But "contact
our sales rep" is irritating as hell.

I suspect the reason they wont list the prices is because it would
probably take a real good con-artist salesman to get me to even consider
paying what thier asking. It gives me the  impression that they're hiding
something.

I wouldnt have any problem paying for a decent development environment,
one that will run on Linux or BSD, but until these companies are a little
more forthcoming with the critical  information, I will refuse to buy from
them. At least with Java and C and such, I can  purchase tools right
online with a credit or debit card and them delivered next day air
(should I choose to do so).
So piss on it, for now I'll continue using the free tools that are
available. Dealing with "Sales Reps" feels too much like dealing with
telemarketers.

Laters.

McDoobie

chris@dont.spam.me



  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-20  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-19 16:33 Ada vendors and the art of selling used cars Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-08-20  6:45 ` McDoobie [this message]
2001-08-20 12:09   ` Gerhard Häring
2001-08-20 12:34     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-27 14:05       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-20 14:09   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-20 17:58     ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-20 18:45       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-20 17:31   ` Reivilo Snuved
2001-08-20 22:01     ` McDoobie
2001-08-20 22:56     ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-08-21 13:59       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-21 15:48         ` Jerry Petrey
2001-08-21 17:10           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-23 16:33           ` Richard Riehle
2001-08-21  9:30     ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-20 12:25 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-08-20 19:28 ` those who know me have no need of my name
2001-08-20 23:56   ` Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-08-20 23:56     ` those who know me have no need of my name
2001-08-21  1:46       ` Andrzej Lewandowski
2001-08-21 17:57         ` Randy Brukardt
2001-08-21 18:44           ` Al Christians
2001-08-21 19:56             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27  1:49             ` tmoran
2001-08-21 14:08       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-21 15:13         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-21 15:43           ` Marin David Condic
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