* Ada - buzzword or not? (Was: Ada-Europe 2007 early registration deadline approaching) [not found] ` <465df029$0$97254$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> @ 2007-06-04 10:27 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen 2007-06-04 13:08 ` Chris Hills 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Jacob Sparre Andersen @ 2007-06-04 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw) [ XFUT comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada ] Hugh wrote: > Dirk Craeynest wrote: >> 12th International Conference on >> Reliable Software Technologies - Ada-Europe 2007 >> >> 25 - 29 June 2007, Geneva, Switzerland >> >> http://www.ada-europe.org/conference2007.html > Seem to remember ADA was a common buzzword 15 years ago, [...] I've never percieved Ada as a buzzword. > Does anyone still use it or is it another of those 80's type > defuncto type language like Pascal and Modulo2? I use it. I have done it since Ada was added to GCC in 1994-95. And I know of one software engineering school where it is tought and one more where the professors keeps it for themselves here in Denmark. Greetings, Jacob -- Black Hole: Where the universe made a Divide by Zero. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Ada - buzzword or not? (Was: Ada-Europe 2007 early registration deadline approaching) 2007-06-04 10:27 ` Ada - buzzword or not? (Was: Ada-Europe 2007 early registration deadline approaching) Jacob Sparre Andersen @ 2007-06-04 13:08 ` Chris Hills 2007-06-04 13:38 ` Niklas Holsti 2007-06-04 14:22 ` Lucretia 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Chris Hills @ 2007-06-04 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <ygezm3gqajm.fsf_-_@hugin.crs4.it>, Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@nbi.dk> writes >[ XFUT comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada ] > >Hugh wrote: >> Dirk Craeynest wrote: > >>> 12th International Conference on >>> Reliable Software Technologies - Ada-Europe 2007 >>> >>> 25 - 29 June 2007, Geneva, Switzerland >>> >>> http://www.ada-europe.org/conference2007.html > >> Seem to remember ADA was a common buzzword 15 years ago, [...] >I've never percieved Ada as a buzzword. Me neither it is the name of a language. >> Does anyone still use it or is it another of those 80's type >> defuncto type language like Pascal and Modulo2? > >I use it. I have done it since Ada was added to GCC in 1994-95. And >I know of one software engineering school where it is tought and one >more where the professors keeps it for themselves here in Denmark. I think Ada is less popular than it was (a statement of numerical fact not a comment on the language itself) other languages are used more often. However Ada still has a very large part of the safety critical market. Some areas would use nothing else. Pascal and Modular 2 are all but defunct. There are too many companies with a vested interest in Ada to let it go quietly. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Ada - buzzword or not? (Was: Ada-Europe 2007 early registration deadline approaching) 2007-06-04 13:08 ` Chris Hills @ 2007-06-04 13:38 ` Niklas Holsti 2007-06-04 16:52 ` Chris Hills 2007-06-04 14:22 ` Lucretia 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Niklas Holsti @ 2007-06-04 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw) Chris Hills wrote: > I think Ada is less popular than it was (a statement of numerical fact > not a comment on the language itself) other languages are used more > often. However Ada still has a very large part of the safety critical > market. Some areas would use nothing else. > > Pascal and Modular 2 are all but defunct. There are too many companies > with a vested interest in Ada to let it go quietly. Not only companies -- there are many individuals who use it by preference (I am one of these) and who maintain its implementations, for example the GCC/GNAT compiler on various Linux distros (alas I am not one of these). I would describe Ada as an industrial strength implementation of the ideas in Pascal, Modula 2 and CLU, with a strong guiding philosophy but enough pragmatics to make implementations practical and efficient. The Ada WikiBook http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Ada is a good introduction to the language. -- Niklas Holsti Tidorum Ltd niklas holsti tidorum fi . @ . ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Ada - buzzword or not? (Was: Ada-Europe 2007 early registration deadline approaching) 2007-06-04 13:38 ` Niklas Holsti @ 2007-06-04 16:52 ` Chris Hills 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Chris Hills @ 2007-06-04 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <466415b3$0$8389$39db0f71@news.song.fi>, Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@nospam.please> writes >Chris Hills wrote: > >> I think Ada is less popular than it was (a statement of numerical >>fact not a comment on the language itself) other languages are used >>more often. However Ada still has a very large part of the safety >>critical market. Some areas would use nothing else. >> Pascal and Modular 2 are all but defunct. There are too many >>companies with a vested interest in Ada to let it go quietly. > >Not only companies -- there are many individuals who use it by >preference (I am one of these) and who maintain its implementations, >for example the GCC/GNAT compiler on various Linux distros (alas I am >not one of these). Individuals are irrelevant. There are still individuals using forth, oberon, pascal, modula3, small talk and many other languages. It needs the companies to produce industrial strength tools and companies ot specify the use of the language on major projects. >I would describe Ada as an industrial strength implementation of the >ideas in Pascal, Modula 2 and CLU, with a strong guiding philosophy but >enough pragmatics to make implementations practical and efficient. Sounds reasonable to me. > The Ada WikiBook http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Ada is a >good introduction to the language. > -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Ada - buzzword or not? (Was: Ada-Europe 2007 early registration deadline approaching) 2007-06-04 13:08 ` Chris Hills 2007-06-04 13:38 ` Niklas Holsti @ 2007-06-04 14:22 ` Lucretia 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Lucretia @ 2007-06-04 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw) On Jun 4, 2:08 pm, Chris Hills <c...@phaedsys.org> wrote: > In article <ygezm> >> Does anyone still use it or is it another of those 80's type > >> defuncto type language like Pascal and Modulo2? It is still used on simulators, aeroplanes, rail netowrks, etc. > >I use it. I have done it since Ada was added to GCC in 1994-95. And > >I know of one software engineering school where it is tought and one > >more where the professors keeps it for themselves here in Denmark. I was taught it at university, but they moved onto Java. I came back to Ada a couple of years ago and do all my work with it if possible. > I think Ada is less popular than it was (a statement of numerical fact > not a comment on the language itself) other languages are used more > often. However Ada still has a very large part of the safety critical > market. Some areas would use nothing else. > > Pascal and Modular 2 are all but defunct. There are too many companies > with a vested interest in Ada to let it go quietly. Aye, plus it's a decent language ;) Luke. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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