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From: Keith Thompson <kst@cts.com>
Subject: Re: Problem with GNAT modified GPL and SourceForge
Date: 13 Feb 2002 02:13:56 -0800
Date: 2002-02-13T02:13:56-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yec6651zo2j.fsf@king.cts.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: a4bonq$8e0$1@nh.pace.co.uk

"Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org> writes:
> "Simon Wright" <simon@pushface.org> wrote in message
> news:x7vg047ls6f.fsf@smaug.pushface.org...
> > I was surprised (shouldn't have been, I guess) to find that our (UK)
> > lawyers seem to place a different meaning on the phrase "public
> > domain". They say we should not say "(c) XYZ plc 2002" on any document
> > we are not intending to be used for publicity purposes because it
> > "places the document in the public domain". I have no idea what this
> > means to them, IANAL, but there certainly seems to be a difference
> > between what these guys think and what most of us have come to
> > understand by the phrase.
[...]

That is surprising.  I had thought that the US and most European
countries followed the Berne Convention for copyrights, so the rules
should be about the same in most places.  I seem to recall that "(c)"
is not a valid copyright indication; you need either the c-in-a-circle
symbol or the word "copyright".  Could that be what you're referring
to?

> Maybe because it makes the work something accessible to the public?
> As opposed to "company private" or "classified" or whatever else you
> might want to do to make a work a private matter?

I think you're talking about a "trade secret".

> The terminology is certainly confusing. Obviously, one always needs to
> consult legal counsel to be sure, but with a newsgroup as international as
> this and the subject of copyright and licensing coming up fairly often for
> one reason or another, it would help to have a shared understanding of what
> was meant when using certain terminology.

Indeed.

Some sources of information about copyright (certainly better than my
own semi-informed ramblings) are:

<http://www.benedict.com/>
<http://fairuse.stanford.edu/library/faq.html>
<http://www.templetons.com/brad/copyright.html>
<http://www.tjc.com/copyright/> (not currently available)

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-13 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-07 10:25 Problem with GNAT modified GPL and SourceForge Steffen Huber
2002-02-07 14:34 ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08 16:31   ` Steffen Huber
2002-02-14 13:35     ` Stephen Leake
2002-02-07 14:51 ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-07 15:15   ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-07 19:45     ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-07 23:03   ` Frode Tennebø
2002-02-07 14:58 ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-07 15:09   ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-07 15:11   ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-07 23:44     ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-07 23:47       ` Ed Falis
2002-02-08  1:11       ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-08 11:52     ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-08 14:53       ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-09 12:47         ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-10  0:04           ` Keith Thompson
2002-02-10 12:07             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-10 18:28               ` David Starner
2002-02-11 14:56                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-11 15:04                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-11 15:42                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-11 16:25                   ` Darren New
2002-02-11 21:36                   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-11 17:37                 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-02-11 17:49                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-12 13:26                     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-02-11 19:44                 ` Simon Wright
2002-02-12 19:00                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-13 10:13                     ` Keith Thompson [this message]
2002-02-13 23:40                       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-15 19:15                       ` Simon Wright
2002-02-12 20:05                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-11 13:27             ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-11 21:09               ` Keith Thompson
2002-02-12 10:40                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-11 15:07           ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-12  6:20             ` David Starner
2002-02-12 10:53               ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-12 11:57                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-12 19:57                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-07 15:23   ` Steffen Huber
2002-02-07 15:29 ` Stephen Leake
2002-02-07 23:51   ` Al Christians
2002-02-08  1:14     ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-08  3:53       ` Al Christians
2002-02-08 15:01         ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-08 17:03         ` Stephen Leake
2002-02-08  1:12   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-10 18:16   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-07 16:29 ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-07 17:07   ` Dan Andreatta
2002-02-08  1:21     ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-08  3:59       ` Eric Merritt
2002-02-08 12:06         ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-08 12:40         ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08  5:49       ` David Starner
2002-02-08 17:47         ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-08 11:34       ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-08 15:34     ` Stephen Leake
2002-02-07 17:11 ` David Starner
2002-03-11 12:24 ` Harri J Haataja
2002-03-11 16:15   ` Stephen Leake
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