From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Do people who use Ada also use ocaml or F#?
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 13:14:48 +0100
Date: 2010-11-07T13:14:49+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <y4ztutbu67lt.16op0qlsq4g0v$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2oca1xsfv.fsf@pushface.org
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 11:51:32 +0000, Simon Wright wrote:
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
>
>> Furthermore, I would bet that practically any generic can be broken
>> per erroneous instantiation, e.g. by passing function "-" where "+"
>> expected. We discard these cases as unlike, but we cannot prove that
>> they indeed do not happen, until we instantiate, with is the essence
>> of being non-testable.
>
> Good grief, most code won't give the right answers (=> answers you were
> hoping for) if you violate its preconditions!
That depends. If Read raised End_Error, while I hoped to get a Character,
was it right or wrong?
IMO one of the most important characteristics of bad design are
preconditions, which can get violated. The design is extremely bad when
they can be violated without a notice. Preconditions is what makes usage
unsafe.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2010-10-29 2:27 Do people who use Ada also use ocaml or F#? Chad R. Meiners
2010-10-29 2:58 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-30 1:32 ` Chad R. Meiners
2010-10-30 2:22 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-30 3:44 ` Chad R. Meiners
2010-10-30 12:15 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-10-30 12:14 ` Florian Weimer
2010-10-30 12:46 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-30 13:59 ` Florian Weimer
2010-10-30 14:12 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-10-30 18:58 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-30 19:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-10-30 23:11 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-10-31 15:13 ` Florian Weimer
2010-10-29 7:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-29 17:10 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-29 19:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-29 22:16 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-10-30 0:01 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2010-10-30 2:07 ` Chad R. Meiners
2010-10-30 23:02 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-10-30 23:30 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 2:31 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-10-31 2:58 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 10:57 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-10-31 11:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 16:58 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-11-01 17:46 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-11-01 17:03 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2010-11-03 13:30 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-11-03 19:16 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-30 7:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-30 23:08 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-10-30 23:15 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2010-10-31 2:36 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-10-31 3:01 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 4:52 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-10-31 5:12 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 7:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-31 8:03 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 8:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-31 11:00 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-10-31 11:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-31 12:51 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-10-31 15:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-31 15:32 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 20:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-31 20:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 20:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-31 18:23 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-10-31 18:02 ` Jeffrey Carter
2010-10-30 2:07 ` Chad R. Meiners
2010-10-30 2:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-30 3:55 ` Chad R. Meiners
2010-10-30 7:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-30 12:18 ` Florian Weimer
2010-10-30 12:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-30 19:12 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-30 19:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-30 20:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-30 20:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-30 21:53 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 8:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-10-31 9:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-10-31 21:46 ` Shark8
2010-11-01 9:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-11-01 10:17 ` Florian Weimer
2010-11-05 12:46 ` Robert A Duff
2010-11-05 16:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-11-06 17:22 ` Stephen Leake
2010-11-06 20:56 ` Robert A Duff
2010-11-06 23:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-11-06 23:41 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-11-07 0:18 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-11-07 11:51 ` Simon Wright
2010-11-07 12:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2010-11-07 3:05 ` Chad R. Meiners
2010-11-01 11:44 ` Brian Drummond
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