From: Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org>
Subject: Re: Would You Fly an Airplane with a Linux-Based Control System?
Date: 24 Nov 2004 06:07:30 +0000
Date: 2004-11-24T06:07:30+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x7vu0rf7pb1.fsf@smaug.pushface.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: sa41xekrzd9.fsf@snoopy.apana.org.au
Brian May <bam@snoopy.apana.org.au> writes:
> >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org> writes:
>
> Simon> bitbucket@invalid-domain-see-sig.nil (Robert Kaiser)
> Simon> writes:
>
> >> Very True. In fact, I think open source even has (or could
> >> have) an advantage in mission critical applications because of
> >> the potentially huge number and skill of reviewers.
>
> Simon> They have to be competent and -- possibly more difficult --
> Simon> motivated!
>
> open source doesn't mean unpaid for...
But (my point was) that if you expect a huge number of reviewers you
must pay them in some currency; and giving them something really
interesting to review is one approach.
> If a company really wants an open source solution, they can pay
> programmers to write and maintain it. They can sell the hardware
> with the source code to the customer giving the customer the
> security they can check every line of the code independently for
> safety if they so desire (and not just take the companies word for
> it when it says it is "safe").
>
> I doubt this is going to happen though, for a variety of
> reasons. One such reason is if the customer has access to the source
> code, presumably they can change it; I doubt the aviation
> authorities are going to like this... In this country, for instance
> to get a GPS receiver that is rated for GPS
> non-precision-approaches, the software *must* be written so that GPS
> way points cannot be updated accept via approved update.
Our prime customer (the UK MoD) usually requires full source
disclosure anyway, to that would be nothing new.
I don't see that being able to view the source necessarily equates to
being able to change a delivered system in the field. You would have
thought that some digital signing technique/dongle would be possible
-- after all, if a customer wanted to change the firmware he could,
with enough physical access.
--
Simon Wright 100% Ada, no bugs.
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2004-11-22 11:44 Would You Fly an Airplane with a Linux-Based Control System? Preben Randhol
2004-11-22 13:23 ` Simon Clubley
2004-11-22 22:36 ` Brian May
2004-11-22 23:07 ` Ed Falis
2004-11-22 23:29 ` David Botton
2004-11-23 4:11 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-11-23 9:24 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-25 18:28 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-25 20:15 ` David Botton
2004-11-26 3:11 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-11-26 10:11 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-11-26 11:51 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-26 12:32 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-11-26 13:40 ` Adrien Plisson
2004-11-26 13:54 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-26 22:22 ` Adrien Plisson
2004-11-27 0:24 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-29 1:23 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-04 18:58 ` Enrique Laso Leon
2004-12-05 1:29 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-12-05 13:50 ` Would You Fly an Airplane with a Linux-Based Control Larry Kilgallen
2004-12-06 13:20 ` Would You Fly an Airplane with a Linux-Based Control System? Simon Clubley
[not found] ` <oSFxff11_F@VB1162.spb.edu>
2004-11-26 11:40 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-26 12:21 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-11-26 13:00 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2004-11-26 19:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-11-26 19:50 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-26 22:58 ` Simon Wright
2004-11-27 20:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-11-29 1:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-11-29 20:06 ` Preben Randhol
2004-11-26 20:58 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-27 0:06 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-27 0:55 ` Rod Haper
2004-11-27 1:31 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-27 8:07 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-27 9:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-11-27 9:51 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-27 13:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-11-29 20:13 ` Preben Randhol
2004-11-27 20:31 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-11-27 7:59 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-27 8:24 ` Pascal Obry
2004-11-27 19:36 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-26 21:09 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-27 0:15 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-27 19:41 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-27 7:47 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-29 20:04 ` Preben Randhol
2004-11-30 3:11 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-11-30 15:20 ` Mike Silva
2004-12-01 2:51 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-11-30 13:24 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-30 17:28 ` Preben Randhol
2004-12-01 9:27 ` Martin Krischik
2004-12-01 16:59 ` Preben Randhol
2004-12-01 18:53 ` Martin Krischik
2004-12-02 21:07 ` Preben Randhol
2004-12-05 6:52 ` Brian May
2004-11-23 12:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-11-23 10:35 ` Robert Kaiser
2004-11-23 12:36 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-23 21:16 ` Simon Wright
2004-11-23 22:09 ` Brian May
2004-11-24 6:07 ` Simon Wright [this message]
2004-11-24 14:39 ` Mike Silva
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2004-11-29 6:33 Christoph Karl Walter Grein
2004-11-29 6:45 Christoph Karl Walter Grein
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