From: Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org>
Subject: Re: Support Metrics for Ada / C Projects
Date: 02 Sep 2004 20:18:40 +0100
Date: 2004-09-02T20:18:40+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x7vhdqga38v.fsf@smaug.pushface.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: yh7Zc.348038$%_6.300057@attbi_s01
"Jeff C," <jcreem@yahoo.com> writes:
> "Sean Cleary" <seanearlyaug@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > 5 or more years ago a project I was associated with failed because the
> > Ada part of the team was crippled: no run time debug -- all reported
> > back stuff was machine/assembly language level. They took to heavily
> > instrumenting their code, and got huge printouts of exactly what was
> > happening. And had to look through it line by line, loop cycle by loop
> > cycle until the problem was found. That was so slow that it killed the
> > project. Please do not let this happen to you. Their conclusion was
> > that C++ with good tools would have been better. I hope that there are
> > now good tools for embedded Ada.
> I hate to feed the trolls but indicating that Ada tools for embedded were
> bad 5 (or more?) years ago is not very helpful. There were bad Ada tools 5
> years ago. There were bad C++ tools 5 years ago. In fact, there are almost
> certainly more bad C++ tools than Ada tools (given that there are more C++
> tools in existance).
>
> I have been using Ada since 1987. There were good tools then (VAX Ada was
> pretty nice. Even for the embedded DEC OS). I've seen some bad tools too
> (The Merdian Ada to C front end for the i860 comes to mind).
The VxWorks gdb from ACT with Ada support is pretty good. Looks very
nice with the (supported) GPS front-end, too!
I don't use it all that often, though ...
--
Simon Wright 100% Ada, no bugs.
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2004-08-30 23:26 ` Support Metrics for Ada / C Projects Richard Riehle
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2004-08-31 22:51 ` Jeff C,
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