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From: Markus E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: LLVM--Low Level Virtual Machine--and Ada
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:47:16 +0200
Date: 2007-07-24T12:47:16+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x54pjurscr.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrnfabiqb.gel.Colin_Paul_Gloster@localhost.localdomain


> On 2007-07-24, Duncan Sands <baldrick@free.fr> wrote:
>
> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |" Hi Randy,                                                                  |
> |                                                                             |
> |> Janus/Ada has never used any executable data/stack in its 32-bit versions; |
> |> such code would save no more than a clock cycle or two (out of hundreds or |
> |> thousands) and as such could not be significant. We use compiler-generated |
> |> thunks rather than run-time generated trampolines, and I'm not sure why    |
> |> anyone would use the latter (given that they increase the exploitability of|
> |> a program). Most be something I don't understand...                        |
> |                                                                             |
> | how do these thunks work?                                                   |
> |                                                                             |
> | Thanks,                                                                     |
> |                                                                             |
> | Duncan."                                                                    |
> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
> You should pay RR Software for a source code license to obtain that
> information.

You speaking for RR software? AFAIR, Randy has been very forward and
frank in the past to discuss compiler implementation (many thanks to
him: I usually learn something from his posts). How do I have to
understand the "should" in this sentence then?

 - It's a moral obligation.

 - Randy has changed the rules: Thunks (as opposed to other details)
   are only being disclosed against money.

 - ...

Regards -- Markus




  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-24 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-18  3:56 LLVM--Low Level Virtual Machine--and Ada Jerry
2007-07-18  7:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-18  7:48 ` Duncan Sands
2007-07-19 14:30   ` Maxim Reznik
2007-07-19 14:56     ` Duncan Sands
     [not found]     ` <200707191656.27602.baldrick@free.fr>
2007-07-19 15:03       ` Duncan Sands
2007-07-19 21:30         ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-20  7:44           ` Duncan Sands
2007-07-20 14:06             ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-21 13:09               ` Tero Koskinen
2007-07-23  7:47               ` Duncan Sands
2007-07-24  2:12                 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-24  8:03                   ` Duncan Sands
2007-07-24  9:50                     ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-07-24 10:47                       ` Markus E Leypold [this message]
2007-07-25 12:12                         ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-07-25 12:59                           ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-24 19:21                     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-24 19:36                       ` Duncan Sands
2007-07-24 19:58                         ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-24 23:28                   ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-25  0:39                     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-25  2:00                       ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-25 13:14                         ` Duncan Sands
2007-07-21 22:04 ` anon
2007-07-22 13:22   ` Steve
2007-07-23 12:29   ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-07-23 14:42     ` anon
2007-07-23 16:55       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-24 10:19       ` Colin Paul Gloster
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