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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Problem trying to implement generics.
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:02:57 GMT
Date: 2001-04-20T23:02:57+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wcczodb2mzi.fsf@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.BSF.4.21.0104201243170.15373-100000@shell5.ba.best.com

Brian Rogoff <bpr@shell5.ba.best.com> writes:

> Well, the whole thing is somewhat whimsical. I personally prefer this
> aspect of Ada syntax but it's very, very low on my list, so if I were 
> voting on some new language design I'd probably vote to keep begin-end 
> but if the rest of the world wants {} instead so be it. 

I agree that it's not the most important thing.

One thing I've considered is having two alternate syntaxes for the
various control structures.  For example, you could say:

    if Condition then
        ...
    end if;

or

    if Condition { ... };

or something like that.  The former would be used when "..." is long;
the latter when "..." is short (eg three lines or less?) -- so short
that the "}" is close to the "if", so it's obvious what it belongs to,
so "end if" is merely clutter in that case.

And probably the {...} syntax couldn't have other control structures
nested inside it -- it's only allowed for the innermost thing.

Good idea?

Oh, and I'd like my editor to automatically convert from one to the
other as "..." grows or shrinks.

> I'd really like to use the {} for something else, and there are only a few 
> symmetric bracket pairs to choose from. 

What did you have in mind?  Literals of type "set"?

Note that you can invent new bracket-y pairs using some slightly ugly
syntax like:

    (.   .)
    (:   :)
    (*   *) -- Pascal uses this one.
    <<   >> -- Ada uses this one.
    ``   '' -- The TeX "programming" language uses this. ;-)

BTW, I wish ASCII had left and right double-quote characters.  That
would be much more civilized.

- Bob



  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-20 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-11 15:04 Problem trying to implement generics Ayende Rahien
2001-04-12  1:41 ` tmoran
2001-04-12 13:15   ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-12 18:15     ` tmoran
2001-04-13 11:18       ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-13 10:35         ` chris.danx
2001-04-13 11:54           ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-13 11:49             ` chris.danx
2001-04-13 23:03               ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-13 23:01                 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-14  0:05                   ` Brian Rogoff
2001-04-14  1:12                     ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-14  1:44                       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-04-14 14:03                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-04-14 16:30                           ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-14 16:28                             ` Michael Erdmann
2001-04-15  3:27                             ` James Rogers
2001-04-15 12:20                               ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-15 14:09                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-04-15 18:22                                 ` tmoran
2001-04-15 13:48                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-04-15 20:44                               ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-16 14:34                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-04-14  1:33                     ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-17  8:50                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-04-17 13:20                   ` Tucker Taft
2001-04-17 16:51                     ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-17 17:16                       ` Larry Hazel
2001-04-17 18:11                         ` Brian Rogoff
2001-04-17 19:10                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-17 21:08                             ` Brian Rogoff
2001-04-18 15:16                               ` Chad R. Meiners
2001-04-18 16:33                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-17 21:09                             ` chris.danx
2001-04-17 21:11                             ` chris.danx
2001-04-17 21:17                             ` chris.danx
2001-05-08  5:40                             ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-05-11  9:43                               ` John English
2001-05-12 19:16                                 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-04-17 19:32                           ` Larry Hazel
2001-04-17 21:03                           ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-18 15:48                             ` Brian Rogoff
2001-04-20 12:34                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-04-20 12:42                                 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-04-20 12:45                                 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-04-20 19:48                                 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-04-20 20:36                                   ` David Starner
2001-04-20 23:02                                   ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2001-04-23  2:45                                     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-04-24  1:15                                       ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-24  2:00                                         ` Brian Rogoff
2001-04-24 15:12                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-04-24 15:09                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-04-24 18:36                                           ` Marius Amado Alves
2001-04-19 13:08                           ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                           ` <9bi4g4$97m$1@nh.pace.Organization: LJK Software <YlSyXUaQmD+$@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-04-19 14:20                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-18  5:34                       ` Mike Silva
2001-04-18 16:55                       ` Ray Blaak
2001-04-24 16:00                       ` Tucker Taft
2001-04-12 13:57 ` Andy
2001-04-13  6:34   ` Simon Wright
2001-04-13 11:11   ` Ayende Rahien
2001-04-12 18:06 ` Stephen Leake
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