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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: generic package dilemma
Date: 1999/11/22
Date: 1999-11-22T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccyabqfldi.fsf@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 383982E4.110F0F2D@mail.com

Mats Weber <matsw@mail.com> writes:

> BTW, I don't think I was just lucky: the elaboration order control was
> supposed to be automatic in Ada 80, which of course is not feasible.

I think it *is* feasible.  In fact, the latest GNAT does determine an
order automatically -- and if it can't, it complains at link time.  This
is just like any other compile-time or link-time rule -- the halting
problem tells us we have to make the rules somewhat conservative
compared to corresonding run-time rules -- but that *is* feasible in
many cases.

I certainly don't believe the designers of Ada 83 (in 1980) thought it's
possible for compiler to solve the halting problem.  I think they just
wrote the rule in a slightly sloppy way.  They could have rewritten it
to say what they always meant, but instead they chose to go with
run-time checking -- I presume because that makes things simpler by
avoiding a link-time analysis of the entire program's call graph.

- Bob




  reply	other threads:[~1999-11-22  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-11-17  0:00 generic package dilemma Riyaz Mansoor
1999-11-17  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-11-17  0:00   ` Mats Weber
1999-11-17  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-11-18  0:00       ` Mats Weber
1999-11-18  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-11-19  0:00           ` Mats Weber
1999-11-19  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-11-19  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-19  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-22  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-22  0:00                     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-11-19  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-11-20  0:00                   ` Mats Weber
1999-11-19  0:00               ` Mats Weber
1999-11-22  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-22  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-23  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-22  0:00                   ` Mats Weber
1999-11-22  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff [this message]
1999-11-23  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-01  0:00                       ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-12-01  0:00                         ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-22  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-23  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-29  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-01  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-01  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-02  0:00                         ` Mats Weber
1999-12-03  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-03  0:00                             ` Ted Dennison
1999-12-04  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-12-03  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
1999-12-06  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-22  0:00                   ` Mats Weber
1999-11-22  0:00                     ` Bryce Bardin
1999-11-23  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-19  0:00             ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-18  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-18  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-11-19  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-18  0:00   ` Riyaz Mansoor
1999-11-19  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-19  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
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