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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: About String
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:38:08 -0400
Date: 2008-06-15T15:38:08-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccy7561obj.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: qqagad66sewe.g85wmpg6y0u6$.dlg@40tude.net

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:

> On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:19:11 -0400, Robert A Duff wrote:
>
>> Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homepage@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> After all, with the possibility to initialize the new variable with
>>> arbitrarily complex expression (including function call), this is
>>> already the case and the whole declare-begin-end block is just
>>> reflecting some artificial separation.
>> 
>> I agree.  I suppose it comes from Pascal, where declarations and
>> executable code are completely separated.  It makes no sense in
>> Ada, where declarations are just as executable as statements.
>
> I disagree. I think it does make sense because it clearly defines the scope
> of the declared variable. Expression (result) /= named object. And
> reversely, if you don't need the variable, you are free to put expressions
> anywhere outside the declaration part.

If Ada allowed:

    for I in A'Range loop
        X : constant Character := F(A(I)); -- Not Ada!
        Do_Something(X);
    end loop;

the scope of X is clear -- it's the entire loop body.

    for I in A'Range loop
        declare
            X : constant Character := F(A(I));
        begin
            Do_Something(X);
        end;
    end loop;

does not clarify (in my opinion).  It just adds noise.

You could still say:

    for I in A'Range loop
        begin
            X : constant Character := F(A(I)); -- Not Ada!
            Do_Something(X);
        end;
        Do_Something_Else;
    end loop;

in my circus, if you want to further limit the scope of X
(to smaller than the whole loop body).

- Bob



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-15 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-06 17:29 About String Sébastien Morand
2008-06-07 16:18 ` Simon Wright
2008-06-07 17:01   ` Pascal Obry
2008-06-07 22:13     ` Chris Moore
2008-06-08  6:47       ` Niklas Holsti
2008-06-08  7:35         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 10:29           ` Sebastien Morand
2008-06-08 10:53             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 11:14           ` Niklas Holsti
2008-06-08 13:16             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 17:17               ` Niklas Holsti
2008-06-09  7:26                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 11:48           ` Martin
2008-06-08 13:17             ` Conditional declarations (was: About String) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 18:26           ` About String Chris Moore
2008-06-08 18:32         ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-08 20:51           ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-08 21:19             ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-09  7:14               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-09  9:43                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-09 10:25                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-09 10:42                     ` Sébastien Morand
2008-06-09 11:43                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-09 12:03                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-15 19:38                 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2008-06-15 20:52                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-15 22:06                     ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-16  8:31                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-16 19:17                         ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-16 20:30                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-16 22:02                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-16 23:04                             ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-09 11:00               ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-09 14:27                 ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-06-15 19:50                   ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-15 19:48                 ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-08 11:13     ` Simon Wright
2008-06-08 19:03       ` Sebastien Morand
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