From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Run-Time Type Assignment
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:56:07 GMT
Date: 2002-08-29T14:56:07+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccwuq9zpbs.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: H1LxwL.45o@world.std.com
"Ben Brosgol" <brosgol@world.std.com> writes:
> The reason it is safe to pass nested subprograms as parameters in Pascal is
> that Pascal does not allow subprograms to be used as values for variables or
> placed in data structures. GNAT's 'Unrestricted_Access is just as safe,
> provided that you abide by the Pascal restrictions.
Yeah, and array indexing in C is just as safe as in Ada -- so long as
you don't index outside the array bounds. Driving 120 miles per hour
in a 30 mph zone without wearing a seat belt is perfectly safe -- so
long as you don't cause a collision.
OK, sorry for infamatory rhetoric, Ben, but claiming that
'Unrestricted_Access is as safe as in Pascal is just plain silly.
The fact is, you can accidentally create dangling pointers using
'Unrestricted_Access, which you can't do by passing procedural
parameters in Pascal.
>...(I.e.,
> Unrestricted_Access still entails the other checks required by the language;
> e.g. static subtype conformance for corresponding formals, matching
> conventions.) For example:
>
> procedure Test_Unrestricted_Access is
> type Acc is access procedure;
> Ref : Acc;
> procedure P1(N : Integer) is begin null; end P1;
> procedure P2;
> pragma Convention(C, P2);
> procedure P2 is begin null; end P2;
> begin
> Ref := P1'Unrestricted_Access; -- error
> Ref := P2'Unrestricted_Access; -- error
Well, it's nice that it detects *some* errors (it detects misspellings
like 'Unrestricted_Acess, too!), but it doesn't detect dangling
pointers.
> declare
> procedure Q is begin null; end Q;
> begin
> Ref := Q'Unrestricted_Access; -- OK
That's the problem (the above "OK"). If you call Ref.all later, you're
in trouble. GNAT thinks it's OK, but it is *not* OK.
> Ref := Q'Access; --error
> end;
> end Test_Unrestricted_Access;
>
> The lines indicated by the "-- error" comments were diagnosed as
> compile-time errors by GNAT.
>
> As for portability, if you are using GNAT why would you ever want to move to
> some other compiler? :-)
I see the smiley, but, for example, the company I work for (SofCheck,
Inc.) produces Ada compilers for targets that GNAT does not support.
And we've recently heard Robert Dewar pointing out that ACT is not
attempting to cover the *entire* Ada business -- quite reasonably, ACT
has a narrower focus, as do other vendors.
- Bob
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-28 6:53 Run-Time Type Assignment Robert C. Leif
2002-08-28 11:04 ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-28 13:35 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 14:56 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-28 14:31 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 14:59 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-08-28 22:32 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 22:55 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-28 18:03 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-08-28 18:37 ` Pat Rogers
2002-08-28 22:47 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 13:32 ` Ben Brosgol
2002-08-29 13:52 ` SIMON Claude
2002-08-29 14:30 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 18:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-08-29 14:56 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2002-08-30 3:04 ` Ben Brosgol
2002-08-30 22:54 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 15:09 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 14:29 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-28 13:41 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 17:15 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-08-28 20:27 ` Björn Lundin
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2002-08-28 11:33 ` sk
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2002-08-28 11:37 ` sk
2002-08-28 15:39 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-28 18:53 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-08-28 20:54 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-28 22:55 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 3:18 ` Robert C. Leif
[not found] <005101c24ea9$0de9c960$789a0844@robertqgx6k4x9>
2002-08-28 16:06 ` sk
2002-08-28 22:44 ` tmoran
2002-08-29 0:37 ` tmoran
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