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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: String filtering
Date: 03 Oct 2005 13:59:56 -0400
Date: 2005-10-03T13:59:56-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccu0fya3c3.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1KednYZNMNxP8NzeRVn-3A@comcast.com

tmoran@acm.org writes:

> >   function Intern(Table: in out Symbol_Table; -- illegal!
> >                   X: String) return Symbol;
> >...
> >   Tok: Token := Get_Token(Stream);  [-- illegal]
> >...
> >   function Get_Line(S: in out Stream) return String; -- illegal!
> Isn't that why
>     function S'Input(Stream : access Ada.Streams.Root_Stream_Type'Class)
>     return T;
> takes an access parameter?

Yes.

> Is it very difficult to do the same with Intern or Get_Token or Get_Line?

It's a pain to have to declare things 'aliased' all over the place.
It's a "cry wolf" thing -- 'aliased' should mean I'm making
possibly-permanent pointers to that thing.  But here, we don't want
a pointer (except as a temporary by-reference parameter).

"aliased Blah'Class" means "Warning Will Robinson: this procedure might
save the pointer in a global data structure."  But that's not what
S'Input is doing.

And there's some run-time overhead for access parameters -- they carry
run-time accessibility-level info with them.

Furthermore, there's (annoyingly) no way to declare a formal parameter
aliased.  So you use 'access' where 'in out' should suffice, or you
declared tagged types that have no need for a tag.

Yes, there are workarounds for the lack of [in] out params on functions
-- but they have global consequences on your code.

- Bob



  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-03 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-27  6:27 String filtering David Trudgett
2005-09-27  7:38 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-27  9:13   ` David Trudgett
2005-09-27  9:49     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-27 11:01       ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-27 11:12         ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-27 12:54           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-27 13:42             ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-27 14:24               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-28  0:06                 ` David Trudgett
2005-09-28  8:15                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-28 10:39                     ` David Trudgett
2005-09-28 20:55                       ` Simon Wright
2005-09-28 21:53                         ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-28  9:08                   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-28  9:54                     ` David Trudgett
2005-09-29 14:05                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-01 19:02                         ` tmoran
2005-10-02  6:38                           ` David Trudgett
2005-10-02 14:11                             ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-02 22:40                               ` David Trudgett
2005-10-03  5:56                                 ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-03 10:33                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-28 18:21                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-09-28 21:00                   ` Simon Wright
2005-09-27 11:22         ` David Trudgett
2005-09-27 11:15       ` David Trudgett
2005-09-27 13:21         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-27 13:43           ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-28  0:51           ` David Trudgett
2005-09-28 12:02             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-28 13:25             ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-29 22:42           ` Randy Brukardt
2005-09-30 17:54             ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-02  6:57               ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-02 14:14                 ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-03  1:21                 ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-03  7:44                   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-10-03  8:56                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-10-03  9:25                       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-03 20:17                         ` Ada Notation Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-03 20:41                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-05 17:16                             ` Andre
2005-10-05 18:23                               ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 18:24                               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-04 15:13                           ` brian.b.mcguinness
2005-10-04 17:00                     ` String filtering Robert A Duff
2005-10-05  8:19                       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 11:25                         ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-04 19:47                     ` Björn Persson
2005-10-05 14:14                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-10-03 10:06                   ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-03 17:43                   ` tmoran
2005-10-03 17:59                     ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2005-10-05 23:04                       ` Randy Brukardt
2005-09-27 13:52         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-28  1:01           ` David Trudgett
2005-09-28  1:50             ` David Trudgett
2005-09-27 14:08         ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-27 14:09         ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-28  1:09           ` David Trudgett
2005-09-28 21:09           ` Simon Wright
2005-09-27 17:59         ` tmoran
2005-09-28  1:20           ` David Trudgett
2005-09-27 17:47     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-09-28  1:29       ` David Trudgett
2005-09-28 18:32         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-09-27  7:41 ` tmoran
2005-09-27  9:17   ` David Trudgett
2005-09-28  1:54 ` Steve
2005-09-28  2:20   ` David Trudgett
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