From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Reserve_Capacity for Unbounded_String?
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:25:12 -0400
Date: 2007-07-24T22:25:12-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wcctzrtrzhz.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: f864k3$gmv$1@jacob-sparre.dk
"Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> writes:
> "Robert A Duff" <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message
> news:wccr6mx5pz0.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com...
>> "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> writes:
> ...
>> > For Janus/Ada, Unbounded_String is just a controlled wrapper around
> "access
>> > String"; in particular, the length is the length of the item
>> > allocated.
>>
>> Are you saying that:
>>
>> for I in 1..N loop
>> Append (Some_Unbounded_String, 'x');
>>
>> causes a free and a "new" and a copy every time around the loop?
>
> Yup; I just checked the code to make sure. Moreover, I have yet to see an
> real example where the performance difference would matter that much (Free
> and new aren't that expensive relative to the alternatives).
It's the copy I'm wondering about, not the new and free so much.
To append N characters to an unb string requires quadratic copying
(copying a char N**2 / 2 times).
If you double the allocation every time, it's amortized linear.
Yes, you waste some space that way.
> If performance is a real issue, you'd have to write your own code to do the
> actual operations you want; for instance, in your example
> To_Unbounded_String (Some_Unbounded_String, (1..N => 'x')); would be a lot
> faster ...
Yes, but that's just an example. The real example is where you're
reading characters one-by-one from somewhere, and you don't know how
many there will be, and you want to append some of them to a string.
>...on any compiler (far fewer calls to a library; even if there is no
> allocation, there still will be overhead checks for bounds and the like).
> The examples where an alternative implementation of Unbounded_Strings would
> make a significant difference such that the application was fast enough with
> it and not fast enough without it have to be extremely rare.
Fair enough. Real-world measurements beat theoretical reasoning. ;-)
- Bob
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2007-07-22 19:54 Reserve_Capacity for Unbounded_String? Maciej Sobczak
2007-07-22 21:32 ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-23 19:29 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-07-23 20:30 ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-23 4:28 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-07-23 15:07 ` Adam Beneschan
2007-07-24 1:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-24 7:57 ` Pascal Obry
2007-07-24 18:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-24 23:50 ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-25 0:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-24 23:54 ` Pascal Obry
2007-07-25 0:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-25 1:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-25 7:48 ` Pascal Obry
2007-07-25 9:55 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-25 10:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-25 18:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-25 8:50 ` Martin Krischik
2007-07-25 9:26 ` AW: " Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)
2007-07-25 15:32 ` Martin Krischik
2007-07-25 15:39 ` Martin Krischik
2007-07-24 23:41 ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-25 0:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-25 2:25 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2007-07-25 6:07 ` Simon Wright
2007-07-25 19:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-07-25 20:37 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-07-25 22:06 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-26 6:24 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-07-26 8:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-07-26 8:20 ` Pascal Obry
2007-07-26 9:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-07-26 8:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-26 22:11 ` Randy Brukardt
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