From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Ravenscar-compliant bounded buffer
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:47:55 -0400
Date: 2007-09-06T22:47:55-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wcctzq7tcmc.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: x6OdnZo7wcTnNn3bnZ2dnUVZ_r-vnZ2d@comcast.com
"Steve" <nospam_steved94@comcast.net> writes:
> "Robert A Duff" <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message
> news:wccps0vkhvo.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com...
>> "Steve" <nospam_steved94@comcast.net> writes:
>>
>>> Given the restriction, I found your example easy to follow. I don't know
>>> where to find the Ravenscar document for comparison.
>>
>> The Ravenscar profile is documented in section D.13.1 of the latest Ada
>> Reference Manual.
>>
>
> Unless I'm looking the wrong place, section D.13.1 of the ARM (on AdaIC)
> just lists the restrictions.
Right. And then you can look up each restriction, and see what it
specifically means.
>...The original post was asking about the clarity
> of an example in a specific document.
Sorry. I guess I was confused about what you were asking for.
>>> Ada 83 was restrictive in ways that were found to be overly restrictive
>>> for
>>> practical application. Some of these retrictions were relaxed with Ada
>>> 95.
>>> Perhaps the next round of Ravenscar will do the same.
>>
>> I don't see any need to relax Ravenscar, because if you want to use
>> features not allowed by Ravenscar, you don't have to restrict yourself
>> to Ravenscar. It's a free choice. I suppose we could argue about
>> whether the exact set of restrictions is appropriate, but the whole
>> point is to be restrictive, so the run-time system can be simplified (as
>> compared to a run-time system that supports full Ada).
>
> The choice of the exact set of restrictions that are appropriate is what may
> in practice make sense to change. After some experience with the
> restrictions it may be found that a minor modification to one of the
> restrictions may reduce complexity of implementations.
Yes, it might.
There's a trade-off in complexity of implementation (of the Ada run-time
system) and complexity of applications. It's not at all clear (to me)
where that line should be drawn.
- Bob
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-04 13:53 Ravenscar-compliant bounded buffer Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-05 3:00 ` Steve
2007-09-05 7:38 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-06 4:04 ` Steve
2007-09-06 14:06 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-06 15:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-07 2:36 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-06 21:13 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-07 2:41 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-07 11:56 ` anon
2007-09-07 19:44 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-08 0:16 ` anon
2007-09-08 1:19 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-09-08 5:13 ` anon
2007-09-08 22:06 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-09-09 2:17 ` anon
2007-09-09 12:07 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-09-09 13:10 ` Markus E L
2007-09-11 2:44 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-08 11:50 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-09-08 12:01 ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-08 17:13 ` anon
2007-09-08 17:11 ` anon
2007-09-08 19:14 ` Markus E L
2007-09-09 14:54 ` anon
2007-09-09 16:01 ` Markus E L
2007-09-09 10:38 ` Gautier
2007-09-09 11:41 ` anon
2007-09-09 13:19 ` Markus E L
2007-09-09 13:52 ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-09 15:22 ` anon
2007-09-09 16:03 ` Markus E L
2007-09-10 0:05 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-09-10 3:10 ` Markus E L
2007-09-09 16:05 ` Markus E L
2007-09-09 18:40 ` Ed Falis
2007-09-09 19:11 ` Markus E L
2007-09-09 10:57 ` Gautier
2007-09-09 14:49 ` anon
2007-09-09 15:08 ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-09 15:38 ` Markus E L
2007-09-09 19:12 ` Niklas Holsti
2007-09-09 19:28 ` Ed Falis
2007-09-10 12:51 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-09-07 1:38 ` Steve
2007-09-07 2:47 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2007-09-05 7:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-05 8:17 ` brodax
2007-09-05 8:30 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
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