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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Leap Seconds
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 02:01:18 GMT
Date: 2001-05-31T02:01:18+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccsnhme0pd.fsf@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9f347i$jo1$1@nh.pace.co.uk

"Marin David Condic" <marin.condic.auntie.spam@pacemicro.com> writes:

> In any case, my point was that your watch and my watch can both be ticking
> off seconds in relative synch even though my watch says "4:30am, Tuesday"
> {actually it doesn't "say" anything - you have to look at it.} and your
> watch says "3:15pm, Wednesday" You can therefore safely ignore leap-seconds
> and leap-years as long as all we're doing is saying "Let's meet for a beer
> at Ruby Tuesdays in The Gardens Mall, Palm Beach Gardens, FL (free plug
> there, guys!) in one hour, thirty two minutes and 15 seconds." As long as no
> leap-seconds or leap-years happen between now and then, we're fine
> (depending on traffic).

I don't get it.  If we both agree on when the epoch is, and we have a
way of counting seconds since the epoch, then we can agree to meet for
beer at 1,234,567,890.0 seconds after the epoch.  It doesn't matter that
my clock shows a different time than yours (because I count leap seconds
and you don't, or because I don't believe in "nightdark wasting time",
or because we're in different time zones, or whatever).

Isn't all the leap-seconds business about converting to/from a human
readable form.  I mean, leap seconds are exactly one-second long, just
like any other seconds.  (Unlike leap years, which are longer than other
years.)

By the way, it seems to me that Ada *forbids* counting leap seconds, in
that the upper bound of Day_Duration is 86_400.0, rather than 86_401.0.
True?

> Time can be a *very* confusing business!

Indeed.

- Bob



  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-31  2:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-25 14:17 Leap Seconds Marin David Condic
2001-05-25 22:02 ` Tucker Taft
2001-05-29 14:43   ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-29 16:02     ` Ted Dennison
2001-05-29 16:46       ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-29 18:38         ` tmoran
2001-05-29 19:26           ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-30 18:20         ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2001-05-30 18:55           ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-30 23:16             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-05-31  6:34             ` Joseph P Vlietstra
2001-05-31  9:27             ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2001-05-31 15:31               ` Marin David Condic
2001-06-01  7:55                 ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2001-06-01 13:34                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-06-01 15:24                     ` Wes Groleau
2001-06-01 16:18                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-06-01 20:28                         ` Wes Groleau
2001-06-04 13:54                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-06-04 16:05                             ` Wes Groleau
2001-06-04 16:15                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-31 16:53               ` OT: Relativity misunderstood Wes Groleau
2001-05-31 17:20                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-05-31 19:00                   ` Wes Groleau
2001-06-01  6:49                 ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2001-06-04 17:51                 ` [OT] Black holes for interstellar travel (Re: OT: Relativity misunderstood) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-06-05 14:07                   ` Wes Groleau
2001-05-30  0:42     ` Leap Seconds Arthur Evans Jr
2001-05-30 10:14       ` AG
2001-05-30 11:20       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-05-31 16:34         ` Wes Groleau
2001-05-30 14:00       ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-30 15:33         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-05-30 15:39           ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-31  2:01             ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2001-05-31  3:15               ` dale
2001-05-31  7:02               ` tmoran
2001-05-31 15:26               ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-31 16:39                 ` Paul Storm
2001-06-02  6:40                   ` Joseph P Vlietstra
2001-05-31 16:36         ` Wes Groleau
2001-05-31 18:12           ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-30 16:36       ` Darren New
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