From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: += in ada
Date: 19 Oct 2003 19:50:14 -0400
Date: 2003-10-19T19:50:14-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccsmlodbyh.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bmks2b$bsb$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu
"Chad R. Meiners" <crmeiners@hotmail.com> writes:
> "Russ" <18k11tm001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> news:bebbba07.0310141000.681da5c@posting.google.com...
> > The only rational reply I have received so far is that augmented
> > assignment operators are too much effort to implement. Well, they
> > obviously weren't too much effort for C, C++, Java, Perl, and Python.
> > It's really too bad that Ada is so strapped for support. That obvously
> > doesn't bode well for the future of Ada.
>
> Could you please explain why a generic package that defines augmented
> assignment procedures for a numeric type (Add, Subtract, Multiply, Divide)
> is not sufficient?
Because you have to instantiate the doggone thing for every integer type
where you might want to do Add. And you have to anticipate which types
those are, or else do it when it's unnecessary. It leads to a lot of
useless (unreadable) clutter in the code. So nobody bothers with that;
we all just write X := X + 1, even when X is slightly complicated.
- Bob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-19 23:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 303+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-09-25 16:25 += in ada Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-01 8:35 ` Peter Amey
2003-10-01 12:38 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-10-03 16:22 ` Isaac Gouy
2003-10-06 20:21 ` Russ
2003-10-06 22:47 ` (see below)
2003-10-04 20:17 ` Craig Carey
2003-10-06 7:36 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-10-06 8:13 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-06 22:49 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-01 14:06 ` Gautier
2003-10-02 12:26 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-02 13:03 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-02 13:36 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-02 21:28 ` Keith Thompson
2003-10-07 0:41 ` Russ
2003-10-07 10:05 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-07 11:56 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-07 14:02 ` (see below)
2003-10-07 22:22 ` Russ
2003-10-07 23:52 ` (see below)
2003-10-08 6:08 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-09 19:07 ` Russ
2003-10-09 19:42 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
[not found] ` <25oh51-uu2.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-10-10 7:37 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-10 18:56 ` Russ
2003-10-11 8:10 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-11 8:30 ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-10-10 12:09 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-10 7:34 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-12 0:50 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-12 8:24 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-12 14:57 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-12 18:37 ` (see below)
2003-10-13 0:42 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-13 8:32 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-13 19:18 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-13 23:36 ` Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-10-14 6:14 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-14 15:19 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-30 21:43 ` ARG process (was += in ada) Randy Brukardt
2003-10-30 23:21 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-10 20:31 ` += in ada Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-12 8:23 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-14 18:00 ` Russ
2003-10-14 18:15 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-15 12:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-10-15 13:25 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-15 14:04 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-15 15:19 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-15 18:06 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-15 18:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-15 19:34 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-15 23:09 ` Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-10-16 5:05 ` Russ
2003-10-16 12:07 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-16 13:43 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-16 23:57 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-17 6:22 ` Russ
2003-10-17 6:38 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-17 15:48 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-19 1:15 ` Russ
2003-10-19 16:04 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-19 23:59 ` Russ
2003-10-20 5:24 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-20 5:52 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-20 12:40 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-20 14:36 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-21 0:23 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-21 3:46 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-21 6:37 ` Russ
2003-10-21 10:10 ` Marius Amado Alves
2003-10-22 5:23 ` Russ
2003-10-20 14:34 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-21 7:43 ` Russ
2003-10-21 12:45 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-22 7:13 ` Russ
2003-10-22 8:48 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-22 9:02 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-22 18:21 ` Russ
2003-10-22 19:10 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-23 5:24 ` + " Russ
2003-10-22 19:16 ` += " sk
2003-10-22 19:13 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-23 5:16 ` Russ
2003-10-23 5:45 ` sk
2003-10-22 21:22 ` Russ
2003-10-23 2:23 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-22 9:46 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-22 8:01 ` Russ
2003-10-21 13:38 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-22 7:24 ` Russ
2003-10-22 19:50 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-23 5:34 ` Russ
2003-10-23 14:14 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-24 9:15 ` Peter Hermann
2003-10-24 10:11 ` Marius Amado Alves
2003-10-26 7:35 ` Pascal Obry
2003-10-24 11:20 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-25 3:14 ` Russ
2003-10-25 5:07 ` Russ
2003-10-19 23:19 ` Robert A Duff
2003-10-20 6:16 ` Russ
2003-10-20 14:31 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-20 17:10 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-20 17:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-20 19:11 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-20 19:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-20 23:24 ` Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-10-21 0:40 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-21 3:45 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-21 12:07 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-21 12:18 ` Marius Amado Alves
2003-10-21 12:45 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-21 14:46 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-21 17:54 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-21 20:23 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-22 0:18 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-22 4:07 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-22 20:41 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-22 11:56 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-22 0:14 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-22 12:31 ` Early Ada Mistakes (was: Re: += in ada) Marin David Condic
2003-10-22 20:05 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-23 4:47 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-23 14:36 ` Early Ada Mistakes Hyman Rosen
2003-10-23 19:04 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-24 13:33 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-24 16:59 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-23 19:08 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-23 22:17 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-24 11:26 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-23 18:50 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-22 21:00 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-23 4:53 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-22 6:56 ` += in ada Russ
2003-10-22 7:26 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-22 11:27 ` Stephane Richard
2003-10-22 20:12 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-22 20:52 ` Wes Groleau
[not found] ` <emte61-d03.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-10-21 12:57 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-21 2:43 ` Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-10-21 9:39 ` Stephane Richard
2003-10-19 22:26 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-16 4:31 ` + " Russ
2003-10-16 8:57 ` += " Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-16 20:56 ` + " Georg Bauhaus
2003-10-16 4:04 ` += " Russ
2003-10-16 8:57 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-17 3:03 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-17 11:46 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-17 11:50 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-17 12:40 ` sk
2003-10-17 12:48 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-15 14:16 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-16 5:40 ` Russ
2003-10-16 12:45 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-16 22:07 ` Russ
2003-10-17 9:10 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-16 13:48 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-16 20:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-10-17 2:37 ` Russ
2003-10-17 3:01 ` sk
2003-10-17 5:42 ` Russ
2003-10-17 11:26 ` sk
2003-10-17 20:24 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-17 3:52 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-17 6:32 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-17 8:48 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-16 1:25 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-19 23:50 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2003-10-20 5:52 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-07 18:28 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-10-10 19:56 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-20 7:41 ` idem (Was: += in ada) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2003-10-20 8:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-10-20 8:34 ` (see below)
2003-10-31 22:40 ` Nick Roberts
2003-10-14 9:52 ` += in ada Stuart Palin
2003-10-16 8:49 ` Russ
2003-10-16 12:46 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-16 13:46 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-16 15:42 ` Mark A. Biggar
2003-10-16 16:48 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-17 0:26 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-17 1:26 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-17 3:59 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-17 11:54 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-17 20:35 ` Russ
2003-10-19 22:22 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-19 1:37 ` Russ
2003-10-19 3:16 ` sk
2003-10-19 14:10 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-19 14:29 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-20 2:47 ` Russ
2003-10-20 3:03 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-20 5:47 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-20 12:56 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-20 6:19 ` Ross Higson
2003-10-21 17:30 ` Russ
2003-10-21 18:40 ` sk
2003-10-22 7:35 ` Russ
2003-10-21 23:28 ` Ross Higson
2003-10-21 23:55 ` Jerry Petrey
2003-10-22 7:35 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-20 16:30 ` Martin Dowie
2003-10-20 17:05 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-20 17:46 ` Martin Dowie
2003-10-20 18:01 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-21 0:57 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-21 1:46 ` Stephane Richard
2003-10-21 3:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-21 8:49 ` Martin Dowie
2003-10-21 9:04 ` Marius Amado Alves
2003-10-21 13:00 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-21 13:37 ` Marius Amado Alves
2003-10-21 14:50 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-21 15:01 ` Stephane Richard
2003-10-21 15:03 ` Stephane Richard
2003-10-21 15:07 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-21 15:13 ` Stephane Richard
2003-10-21 15:58 ` (see below)
2003-10-21 15:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-10-21 16:44 ` Marius Amado Alves
2003-10-22 7:32 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-22 8:48 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-22 20:24 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-27 12:01 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-27 17:31 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-21 13:01 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-21 4:49 ` sk
2003-10-21 21:19 ` Simon Wright
2003-10-22 4:37 ` sk
2003-10-19 14:40 ` chris
2003-10-19 15:12 ` Stephane Richard
2003-10-19 16:26 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-20 2:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-20 6:12 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-20 12:50 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-20 17:53 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-20 18:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-21 1:35 ` Marin David Condic
2003-10-21 3:05 ` Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-10-21 3:30 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-21 13:22 ` Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-10-21 15:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-19 21:09 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-10-17 14:15 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-17 14:40 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-17 15:40 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-17 15:49 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-17 20:43 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-17 16:02 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-17 16:06 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-19 22:36 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-18 0:08 ` Russ
2003-10-18 10:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-10-20 5:35 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-20 13:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-20 14:27 ` (see below)
2003-10-20 15:58 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-16 21:53 ` Russ
2003-10-17 8:20 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-17 14:21 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-17 14:42 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-17 15:46 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-17 15:35 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-10-17 16:02 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-17 17:20 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-16 8:57 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-01 8:54 christoph.grein
2003-10-04 12:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-10-13 9:22 christoph.grein
2003-10-13 18:38 ` Wes Groleau
2003-10-13 18:59 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-16 8:25 + " Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-10-16 13:22 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-10-16 14:30 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-16 16:13 ` Russ
2003-10-16 21:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-10-17 20:03 ` Russ
2003-10-16 15:55 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-10-17 8:58 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-10-20 10:42 += " christoph.grein
2003-10-21 6:16 ` Russ
2003-10-21 8:25 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-10-21 8:40 += in Ada Marius Amado Alves
2003-10-21 8:41 += in ada christoph.grein
2003-10-22 5:00 ` Russ
2003-10-21 8:53 christoph.grein
2003-10-21 13:48 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-10-22 7:31 ` Russ
2003-10-22 8:02 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-22 11:41 ` Stephane Richard
2003-10-22 15:17 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-10-22 15:47 ` Preben Randhol
2003-10-22 15:07 ` Martin Dowie
2003-10-21 10:03 christoph.grein
[not found] <1066725615.2801.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2003-10-21 11:57 ` += in Ada sk
2003-10-21 12:07 += in ada christoph.grein
2003-10-21 13:51 ` Preben Randhol
[not found] <3F957DAD.2020801@myob.com>
2003-10-21 21:16 ` Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
[not found] ` <nSp8Qb_KxF@vib.usr.pu.ru>
2003-10-21 21:40 ` sk
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