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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Package's private parts and protected types
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:17:16 -0500
Date: 2010-02-08T10:17:16-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccr5ovkb9f.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1qttzk1jbh24i$.xid2h7me3oec.dlg@40tude.net

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:

> Yes, OK. Maybe it is not so offending as private components of a protected
> type, but you are right. "C++-ish" notation (wasn't it actually before
> C++?) poison is at work here as well.

According to this:

http://research.scee.net/files/presentations/gcapaustralia09/Pitfalls_of_Object_Oriented_Programming_GCAP_09.pdf

C++ development started in 1979, and was named "C++" in 1983.
Ada development started in the late 70's (not sure exactly,
probably before 1979), and was named "Ada" before 1983.
So I think Ada slightly predates C++.

It also says C++ was standardized in 1998.  Is that right?
I'm surprised it was so late...
Ada was first standardized in 1983.

IIRC, Ada 83 tasks did not have private parts, and protected types
did not exist.  Packages had private parts.  They were a mistake,
IMHO.  But I don't think it's fair to blame Bjarne Stroustrup for
this mistake.  ;-)

- Bob



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-08 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-08  4:30 Package's private parts and protected types Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08  8:30 ` Martin
2010-02-08  9:11   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 10:10     ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-02-08 10:46       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 14:55         ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-02-08 10:20   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-08 10:54     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 10:58       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 11:01       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-08 13:19         ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-02-08 15:17         ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2010-02-08 16:15           ` (see below)
2010-02-08 20:44             ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 22:00               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09  5:48               ` AdaMagica
2010-02-09 14:56                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-10  2:29                   ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-11 23:46                     ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-12  1:29                       ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-11 23:53                     ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-12  1:10                       ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-10 16:05                   ` Adam Beneschan
2010-02-10 20:17                     ` sjw
2010-02-12  0:05                     ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-12 11:07                       ` Stephen Leake
2010-02-12 15:01                         ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-13  8:00                           ` Stephen Leake
2010-02-09  9:04               ` stefan-lucks
2010-02-08 17:11           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-02-08 14:56       ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 15:36         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-08 16:06           ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 17:46             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-02-08 20:39               ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 21:54                 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 21:50               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 22:04         ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 10:58         ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 14:47           ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09 19:34             ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 20:19               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 23:29               ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-10  2:39               ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-10  5:12                 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-10  7:17                   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-10 16:09                   ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-10 22:21                     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-11  0:48                       ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09  0:48     ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-09 12:43     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
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