From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:38:47 -0400
Date: 2013-06-23T19:38:47-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccr4fsmm7s.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 206y6i0kct3w$.mhlovb1s5pey.dlg@40tude.net
"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:15:15 -0400, Robert A Duff wrote:
>
>> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
>>
>>> ... or there should be no generics.
>>>
>>> The kludge here rather is generics and inlining, both basically are macro
>>> expansions.
>>
>> Semantics defined by macro-expansion is confusing, and should be
>> avoided. I'd prefer to have generic types rather than generic
>> packages, and don't use macro-expansion semantics.
>
> Still macro expansion it is (if meant as textual substitution).
No, as I said above, "don't use macro-expansion semantics"!
One can have "Sequence of Integer" and "Sequence of Whatever"
without any macro-expansion/textual-substitution semantics.
And with full type safety (can't pluck a Mumble out of a
"Sequence of Integer").
> It is no matter how you reinterpret the expanded text: as a package, as a
> type, as a statement, identifier, declaration etc. Generic types would be
> no better than generic packages.
There should be no "expanded text" in my view. Maybe that's what
you mean when you say "no generics", but then you should say
"no Ada-style generics" (or C++-style templates).
- Bob
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2013-06-21 8:43 Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components Martin
2013-06-21 9:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21 9:33 ` Martin
2013-06-21 10:14 ` G.B.
2013-06-21 11:19 ` Martin
2013-06-21 14:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-22 11:16 ` Martin
2013-06-22 12:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21 18:36 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-22 16:41 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-22 19:05 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-22 22:57 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23 3:26 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-23 7:32 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23 13:12 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 14:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 15:15 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 23:38 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2013-06-24 7:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-24 20:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 7:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-25 19:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-23 14:40 ` Shark8
2013-06-23 15:28 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:14 ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-23 23:43 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 23:48 ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-24 20:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 1:09 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-23 12:28 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-24 20:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 21:40 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-25 0:43 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 19:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 11:24 ` Martin
2013-07-09 14:39 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 7:03 ` Martin
2013-07-09 21:43 ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-10 6:34 ` Martin
2013-07-10 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 13:06 ` Martin
2013-07-10 16:12 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 18:22 ` Martin
2013-07-10 19:41 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 18:28 ` Martin
2013-07-11 19:37 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 20:43 ` Martin
2013-07-12 6:57 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-12 8:05 ` Martin
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