From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: memory management
Date: 28 May 2005 07:44:16 -0400
Date: 2005-05-28T07:44:16-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccoeav8tin.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1226363.QsRZW1KHie@linux1.krischik.com
Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> Robert A Duff wrote:
>
> > alex goldman <hello@spamm.er> writes:
> >
> >> As I understood from reading the Ada tutorial for C/C++ programmers,
> >> "access" is essentially like C++ smart pointer,
> >
> > No, Ada access types are just pointers -- no "smarts".
> > To make something like smart pointers, you can use
> > controlled types.
>
> No again - any paricular Ada implementation is free to implement access
> types as they see fit. With GNAT an access may consist of an pointer to the
> data and a pointer to a dope vector:
That's what I call a "fat pointer". Still just a pointer (as opposed to
a smart pointer).
When I say "pointer", I don't mean it has to be implemented as a single
machine address. It could be an offset from some known base address, an
index into an array, or (as you say) a fat pointer -- among other
things.
The same is true of pointers in C and C++ -- an implementation is free
to implement pointers as something other than a machine address. In
fact, if a C compiler wishes to check array bounds, it pretty much *has*
to use fat pointers. I know of one C compiler that did just that. My
point is that "pointer" is not synonymous with "single machine address",
even in C.
By the way, I believe the fat pointers used by GNAT are an option --
there's some way to tell it to use thin pointers for access-to-array.
GNAT uses fat pointers (by default) only when the designated type is an
array, or when the designated type is unknown to the compiler.
Access-to-record, which is far more common, uses thin pointers.
I don't know of any Ada implementation besides GNAT that uses
fat pointers at all.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dope_vector
> Remeber that an Ada compiler may also implement garbage collection.
Yes. That would typically *not* involve smart pointers.
- Bob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-28 11:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-26 0:57 memory management alex goldman
2005-05-26 2:14 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2005-05-26 13:21 ` Steve
2005-05-26 18:40 ` alex goldman
2005-05-28 2:13 ` Steve
2005-05-28 5:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-05-28 14:48 ` Steve
2005-05-26 18:47 ` Pascal Obry
2005-05-27 14:33 ` Martin Krischik
2005-05-26 12:10 ` Robert A Duff
2005-05-27 14:31 ` Martin Krischik
2005-05-28 11:44 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2005-05-28 13:03 ` Simon Wright
2005-05-31 12:04 ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-02 15:42 ` Thomas Maier-Komor
2005-06-02 17:05 ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-03 1:41 ` Steve
2005-06-03 10:12 ` alex goldman
2005-06-13 4:01 ` Dave Thompson
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2005-04-19 20:30 Memory_Management Anh Vo
2005-04-19 1:39 Memory_Management Bini
2005-04-19 9:18 ` Memory_Management Duncan Sands
2005-04-20 1:06 ` Memory_Management Bini
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