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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Elaboration order handling (Was: Bug in 'gnatmake')
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:10:04 -0400
Date: 2013-06-21T15:10:04-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccobazuvoz.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: kq263t$287$2@dont-email.me

Jeffrey Carter <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> writes:

> (By "statement", I mean something with a terminator semicolon that I
> count as a statement when counting statements, which includes
> declarations. By "null statement" I mean a statement identical to Ada's
> null statement, even if it's a declaration. So, yes, the language could
> require a null statement in a declarative part.)

Interesting.  You are very close to agreeing with me that statements and
declarations are more-or-less the same thing (syntactically), and
wherever one is allowed, so should the other.  What's wrong with
statements in a package spec (or body decl part)?  If you allow "null;"
in a declarative part, then why not allow an assignment statement, or a
procedure call?  And if you do that, there's no point at all to the
"begin" that appears in the middle of a procedure body.

Once in a while, I want to initialize an object using statements,
because the "X: T := ...;" syntax doesn't work for some reason.

    package body P is
        X : ...;

        package Dummy is end;
        package body Dummy is
        begin
            for I in ... loop
                X(I) := ...;
            end loop;
        end Dummy;
        ... -- 1000 more lines of code

That extra Dummy package doesn't aid readability.  The other choice,
moving the initialization way down into the "begin...end P;" part
is also bad, because the initialization is far away from the
declaration, and there's lots of opportunity to use uninitialized
variables in between.

- Bob

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-21 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-17 10:57 Range check for type 'Integer' Peter Brooks
2013-06-17 11:23 ` Simon Clubley
2013-06-17 11:54   ` Simon Wright
2013-06-17 12:55   ` Peter Brooks
2013-06-17 13:28     ` Shark8
2013-06-17 13:45       ` Peter Brooks
2013-06-17 21:16         ` Shark8
2013-06-18 10:48     ` Stephen Leake
2013-06-17 12:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-17 13:23 ` Bug in 'gnatmake' (Was: Range check for type 'Integer') Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-17 13:32   ` Bug in 'gnatmake' Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-17 16:50   ` Bug in 'gnatmake' (Was: Range check for type 'Integer') Robert A Duff
2013-06-17 19:15     ` Peter Brooks
2013-06-17 21:09       ` Shark8
2013-06-17 21:22       ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-18  1:21         ` Peter Brooks
2013-06-18  6:33           ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-18  7:29       ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-06-17 18:49   ` Bug in 'gnatmake' Simon Wright
2013-06-18  9:09     ` Elaboration order handling (Was: Bug in 'gnatmake') Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-18 17:09       ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-18 22:52         ` Adam Beneschan
2013-06-19  1:21           ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-19 12:38             ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-19 20:43               ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-06-20  0:37                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-20 19:56                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-06-19 12:22           ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-19 15:46             ` Adam Beneschan
2013-06-19 16:41               ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-19 20:47               ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-06-19 21:36                 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-06-20  0:57                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-20  1:09                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-20  2:29                     ` Adam Beneschan
2013-06-20  6:08                       ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-20 15:11                     ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-21  5:26                       ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-21 15:48                         ` Adam Beneschan
2013-06-21 18:35                           ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-21 19:10                             ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2013-06-21 21:27                               ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-21 20:43                             ` Adam Beneschan
2013-06-21 21:44                               ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-21 23:47                                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 14:43                                   ` AdaMagica
2013-06-21 18:58                         ` null declarative parts (was: Re: Elaboration order handling) Robert A Duff
2013-06-21 20:42                           ` null declarative parts Georg Bauhaus
2013-06-20  2:11                   ` Elaboration order handling (Was: Bug in 'gnatmake') Adam Beneschan
2013-06-20 14:44                     ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-20 11:24                   ` G.B.
2013-06-20 15:23                     ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-19 21:00             ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-06-19 22:26             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-20  0:31               ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-20 21:36                 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-19 13:07         ` Bill Findlay
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