From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Proposed change to BC iterator parameters
Date: 11 Dec 2003 10:09:39 -0500
Date: 2003-12-11T10:09:39-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccn09zv1ak.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: UkPBb.9455$rP6.7838@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net
Jeffrey Carter <spam@spam.com> writes:
> If we had a syntax like that I described, there would be no predefined
> "=" for either kind of type.
Then how do you write the body of the user-defined "="?
> One can think about all kinds of constraints on types, such as the
> integer types you mentioned. It would be nice to have unconstrained
> arrays with a fixed lower bound*:
>
> type String_From_1 is array (Positive range 1 .. <>) of Character;
Indeed. I think the way to do that would be to eliminate the "range <>"
syntax, and allow arrays types to have discriminants. So the index
subtype would be given as a name, or a "name range
expression..expression", where either expression can refer to a
discrimant. Like this:
type String(Last: Natural) is array (Positive range 1 .. Last) of Character;
Instead of X'Last, one would say X.Last. This seems simpler than having
special syntax "range <>", and then extending that to "range 1..<>"
and "range <>..10".
Something like that was proposed during the Ada 9X project.
> I don't expect to see major changes of this sort.
No, I don't expect that particular change in the next Ada.
>... Where do you stop?
You don't, I suppose. Fortran is much older than Ada, and they keep
coming out with major revisions of Fortran.
> Should you allow arrays with a fixed upper bound?
Of course. To disallow that would be an arbitrary restriction,
not a simplification (presuming you're going to allow fixed
lower bounds).
> * Ada sort of has this:
>
> type String_From_1 (Length : Natural) is record
> Value : String (1 .. Length);
> end record;
Sort of. The syntax for string literals and slices becomes pretty awful.
- Bob
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-10 13:36 Proposed change to BC iterator parameters amado.alves
2003-12-10 16:47 ` Proposed change to BC iterator parameters [limitedness] Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-10 17:39 ` Proposed change to BC iterator parameters Martin Krischik
2003-12-10 18:22 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-12-10 23:00 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-11 1:00 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-12-11 15:09 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2003-12-11 8:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-10 20:50 ` Simon Wright
2003-12-10 23:12 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-11 5:07 ` Steve
2003-12-11 15:24 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-11 17:39 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-12-12 22:22 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-13 0:57 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-12-17 20:59 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-18 10:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-18 18:14 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-19 10:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-19 16:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-19 17:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-19 22:51 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-20 12:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-19 22:47 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-20 2:11 ` Stephen Leake
2003-12-20 19:08 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-21 11:39 ` Simon Wright
2003-12-21 18:13 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-21 13:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-22 1:25 ` Robert I. Eachus
[not found] ` <916oa1-c93.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-12-13 16:57 ` Simon Wright
2003-12-12 5:29 ` Simon Wright
2003-12-12 22:26 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-13 16:55 ` Simon Wright
2003-12-13 17:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-13 2:44 ` Steve
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2003-12-23 10:40 amado.alves
2003-12-19 15:53 amado.alves
2003-12-19 23:05 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-11 16:02 amado.alves
2003-12-11 15:05 ada_wizard
2003-12-11 16:45 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-11 12:56 amado.alves
2003-12-17 20:25 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-11 12:43 amado.alves
2003-12-11 12:33 amado.alves
2003-12-10 14:39 amado.alves
2003-12-10 5:46 Simon Wright
2003-12-10 18:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-12-11 16:10 ` Martin Krischik
2003-12-10 20:59 ` Simon Wright
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