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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: How do you bitwise operations in Ada '83 and '95
Date: 19 Jul 2006 10:41:56 -0400
Date: 2006-07-19T10:41:56-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccmzb5wtaj.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: DGivg.844752$084.196149@attbi_s22

"Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.not.jrcarter@acm.not.spam.org> writes:

> "The algorithm is the same and the same numbers are produced" = "works
> the same". Performance may differ, but behavior is the same.

Since we're arguing about terminology...  ;-)

I'd say the "semantics" are the same, but the "behavior" is different.
To me, "behavior" includes anything observable.  I can observe how
long a program takes to run using a stopwatch.  Of course, I'm sure
we all realize that the semantics, as defined by the RM, does not
say anything about the time this program takes (since it contains
no delay statements).  This distinction between "semantics" and
"behavior" is mentioned in AARM-1.1.2(39.c) (which I wrote sometime
around 1991).

>... Since
> performance is a function of many things in addition to the SW, only
> behavior is a meaningful comparison.

A factor of 3 difference in speed is "meaningful" in my view!

Especially since we're talking about a language intended for real-time
use.

>... No doubt there is a
> platform/OS/compiler combination such that the unpacked version would
> run faster than the packed version does on your machine.

No doubt.

- Bob



  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-19 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1153244316.853254.291560@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>
2006-07-18 18:45 ` How do you bitwise operations in Ada '83 and '95 Robert A Duff
2006-07-18 18:53 ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-18 19:22   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-18 21:32     ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-19  0:40       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19  3:55         ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-19  4:37           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19 13:05             ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-19 19:43               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
     [not found]             ` <1153313832.389434.144930@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
2006-07-19 13:55               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-19 14:20               ` Robert A Duff
2006-07-19 19:30               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19 14:41             ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2006-07-18 19:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19  3:01 ` tmoran
     [not found] <9315684D-C216-4EDA-8852-0A6BD4C275B0@amado-alves.info>
2006-07-19 22:30 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20  7:40   ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-20  9:29     ` Colin Paul Gloster
2006-07-20 12:31       ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-20 13:08         ` Colin Paul Gloster
2006-07-20 13:29           ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 13:49           ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-21  5:23             ` Colin Paul Gloster
2006-07-21  8:00               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-20  9:03   ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-20  9:38     ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-21  9:53       ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-20 11:31     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-20 13:18       ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-21  9:58       ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-21 12:09         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-21 19:03           ` Simon Wright
2006-07-22  8:32             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-22  8:57               ` Simon Wright
2006-07-22 10:52               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-22 13:31                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-20  9:39 Fwd: " Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 17:54 ` tmoran
2006-07-20 18:30   ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 19:36     ` tmoran
2006-07-20 22:09       ` Simon Wright
2006-07-21 10:07         ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-21 19:09           ` Simon Wright
2006-07-21 19:45             ` tmoran
2006-07-23 15:59             ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-24  6:08               ` Simon Wright
     [not found] <BFF12262-F906-4F9A-B867-D0373609F038@amado-alves.info>
2006-07-20 16:40 ` Marius Amado-Alves
     [not found] <CD6E3BB8-52D2-4EED-A790-0184FE56A99A@amado-alves.info>
2006-07-20 20:41 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 23:13   ` Randy Brukardt
2006-07-21  5:38     ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-21 22:09       ` Randy Brukardt
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