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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: How to cache output of the compiler aka ccache
Date: 17 Mar 2005 21:08:52 -0500
Date: 2005-03-17T21:08:52-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccll8lg0y3.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87oedh4ugj.fsf@insalien.org

Ludovic Brenta <ludovic.brenta@insalien.org> writes:

> Hehe... C had separate compilation, but no dependency management.  To
> overcome this limitation, Makefiles were created, but they were not
> portable enough.  To overcome this limitation, configure scripts were
> created.  At first simple, they had to take into account the
> idiosyncrasies of more and more host and target platforms and became
> unwieldy and fragile.  To overcome this limitation, autoconf was
> created, but it still cannot possibly know everything about every host
> and target platform.  To overcome this limitation, automake was
> created.
> 
> Now, autoconf and automake work hand in hand, each using a mix of
> several cryptic languages.  They have become so fiendlishly difficult
> to maintain that few people if any at all understand how they work.
> To overcome this limitation, ...
> 
> Verily this is not the Tao of Programming :)

The strange thing is, it wouldn't be all that hard for a C compiler
vendor to provide a tool for building C programs that would be just as
reliable about maintaining consistency as an ada builder -- without
having to type a bazillion (usually wrong) dependences into a make file.
Seems a lot easier to deal with than automatically-generated make files.

- Bob



  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-18  2:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-17 18:54 How to cache output of the compiler aka ccache i-google-iasuhdkajsh
2005-03-17 19:40 ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-17 20:04   ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-03-17 21:27     ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-03-18  1:24       ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-03-18  2:08         ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2005-03-17 19:47 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-03-18 19:22   ` Simon Wright
2005-03-18 20:04     ` Randy Brukardt
2005-03-18 22:10       ` Florian Weimer
2005-03-19  3:25       ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-03-18  6:58 ` i-google-iasuhdkajsh
2005-03-18 13:33   ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-18 14:01     ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2005-03-18 14:41       ` Florian Weimer
2005-03-18 15:08         ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2005-03-18 16:24           ` Florian Weimer
2005-03-21  8:16             ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2005-03-21  8:54               ` Florian Weimer
2005-03-21 11:26                 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2005-03-18  8:07 ` Martin Krischik
2005-03-18 18:50 ` i-google-iasuhdkajsh
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