From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Inherited Methods and such
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:39:46 -0400
Date: 2007-09-27T09:39:46-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccd4w45isd.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1190843408.713838.128690@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homepage@gmail.com> writes:
> My claim in this lengthy and philosophical discussion is that C++
> provides a complete solution which can be shortly described like this:
> the final type is not established from the very beginning, but is
> progressively moving along the inheritance chain as the subsequent
> constructors of base types complete their work. Thank's to this,
> primitive operations never dispatch further than what can be
> statically reasoned about.
Thanks for summarizing the discussion for me!
I agree with you that during construction you shouldn't dispatch to the
deeper type(s) -- i.e. the ones that can see parts of the object that
are not yet initialized.
But I find the C++ solution less than ideal -- the programmer might well
expect to dispatch to the deeper type, and be surprised when it doesn't.
Question: why do you want to dispatch at all during construction?
I think I remember you saying you wanted to install the object in some
global data structure. But that just means you want to create an
access-to-class-wide, and put that somewhere -- no need to dispatch.
In other words, would you be happy with a rule saying you can't dispatch
during construction? (Never mind, for the moment, whether that's a
compile-time or run-time rule (or some of both).) If the answer is
"no", please give a realistic example where dispatching during
construction makes sense. (I apologize if you already did -- as I said,
I got lost in this thread, and I didn't read all of it.)
- Bob
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2007-09-17 14:26 Inherited Methods and such shaunpatterson
2007-09-17 15:11 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-17 16:46 ` shaunpatterson
2007-09-17 19:07 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-17 20:22 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-17 21:07 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-18 14:27 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-18 14:27 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-18 15:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-18 18:34 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-18 19:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-18 19:39 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-18 20:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-18 21:10 ` Simon Wright
2007-09-18 20:39 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-18 21:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-19 14:49 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-19 15:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-19 22:13 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-20 8:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-20 13:52 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-20 16:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-20 20:45 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-21 18:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-21 21:02 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-22 8:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-22 21:53 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-23 8:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-23 20:36 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-24 9:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-24 15:02 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-24 19:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-25 20:53 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-26 10:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-26 21:31 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-27 15:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-27 21:02 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-26 12:21 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-26 12:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-26 21:37 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-26 23:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-27 21:08 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-28 0:44 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-28 20:32 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-28 22:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-29 23:58 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-26 12:26 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-26 21:50 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-26 22:20 ` Ray Blaak
2007-09-27 0:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-27 13:39 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2007-09-27 14:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-28 0:35 ` Randy Brukardt
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2007-09-28 22:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-29 20:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-27 21:23 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-28 19:12 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-28 19:02 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-28 19:42 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-28 20:44 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-28 22:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-29 20:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-29 20:52 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-30 8:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-29 23:47 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-29 20:48 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-29 23:39 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-30 8:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-29 23:42 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-25 1:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-25 8:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-25 21:02 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-26 12:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-18 4:03 ` Steve
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