From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Division by zero
Date: 12 Jun 2005 09:10:53 -0400
Date: 2005-06-12T09:10:53-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wccbr6bhg9u.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 79ahr0jozmqb$.10jzllrcjpmsv.dlg@40tude.net
"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
> No, it is not, because it has a defined effect: Constraint_Error. Formally
> speaking division by zero is not a contract violation and thus cannot be
> "wrong". Consider the following:
>
> A : constant Integer := 0;
> B : Integer := 1;
> begin
> B := B / A;
> Put_Line ("Hello!");
> exception
> when others =>
> Put_Line ("Good bye!");
>
> The above is a valid program, which should print "Good bye!". At the same
> time the following is *wrong*:
>
> A : constant Integer := 0;
> B : constant Integer := 1;
> C : Integer;
> begin
> C := B / A;
>
> B/A is a static expression, which has to have a value at compile-time.
>
> The difference is not in what the compiler might know, but in what it must
> know.
True, but the RM could easily define that differently. For example, in
Ada 83, "1/0" was *not* considered a run-time error -- it must raise C_E
at run time. That was changed in Ada 95.
We could just as well add a rule that "B/0" is illegal.
But the general idea is that we let compilers generate
warnings in such cases, and don't worry too much about it
in the RM.
By the way, I believe your above example is wrong.
In particular, it can print "Hello!".
See RM-11.6. (This is why I don't like 11.6 -- reasonable programmers
*think* the above should print "Good bye!", but 11.6 says
it might not.)
> > What has actually happened (outside that toy example)
> > was that there was a constant declared in one place and used in
> > many others. Someone went ahead and changed it (for a good
> > reason) to zero. However, one of the uses of that constant was
> > to divide by it.
> >
> >> Constraint_Error will be raised at runtime.
> >
> > It was. My question was - should it have been caught
> > at compile time instead?
>
> I don't think it should. A class of errors which cannot be detected at
> compile time cannot be compile-time errors. Or, in other words, if you
> cannot rely on the compiler, you should not pretend you can. (:-))
Well, in Ada 83, the "class of errors" was "divide by zero".
In Ada 95, that was split into "divide by zero in a static expression"
and "divide by zero in a nonstatic expression" -- the former is a
compile time error, whereas the latter is a run-time error.
There's nothing illogical about splitting it further:
"divide by zero when the Right operand is static" could be defined
as a compile-time error. The problem is that if you try to define
all the compile-time-detectable cases very precisely, it gets quite
complicated. And however you define it, it *has* to be conservative.
- Bob
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-11 21:03 Division by zero Lurker
2005-06-12 2:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2005-06-12 3:04 ` Lurker
2005-06-12 8:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-12 9:43 ` Lurker
2005-06-12 10:36 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-12 11:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-13 8:03 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2005-06-12 13:10 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2005-06-12 16:55 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-06-13 3:22 ` Keith Thompson
2005-06-14 2:14 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-06-13 8:47 ` Lurker
2005-06-14 2:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-06-14 8:35 ` Keith Thompson
2005-06-13 12:19 ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-14 2:31 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-06-14 8:21 ` Lurker
2005-06-14 20:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-06-28 21:22 ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-29 5:50 ` Lurker
2005-06-29 13:27 ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-29 13:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-29 16:03 ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-30 1:19 ` Lurker
2005-06-30 11:16 ` Stuart Palin
2005-06-29 13:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-29 16:07 ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-30 8:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-29 9:20 ` Lurker
2005-06-29 9:49 ` Christoph Grein
2005-06-29 10:40 ` Lurker
2005-06-29 11:04 ` Jeff Creem
2005-06-29 12:28 ` Martin Dowie
2005-06-29 13:40 ` Robert A Duff
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2005-06-12 17:38 ` Simon Wright
2005-06-12 12:21 ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-12 22:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-13 8:34 ` Lurker
2005-06-13 8:54 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-13 17:59 ` Simon Wright
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