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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Three simple questions
Date: 2000/10/16
Date: 2000-10-16T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wcc7l7893ia.fsf@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86aec7tl59.fsf@acm.org

Laurent Guerby <guerby@acm.org> writes:

> kenner@lab.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner) writes:
> > [...] Some would say this argues in favor of underscores not being
> > significant either, so you couldn't have a disinct Roll_Control
> > variable either, but "roll underscore control" sounds a lot smoother
> > than saying "each cycle we set the capital r roll capital c control
> > variable from the average of the lower-case r roll lower-case c
> > control, lower-case r roll capital c control, and capital r roll
> > lower-case c control variables"!
> 
> Nice example ;-).

I don't buy it.  I find it impossible to chat about programs of any
substantial size without writing them down -- that's what whiteboards
are for.

> As for underscores, if you put them consistently between words, you
> don't even need to mention them while discussing your program. And
> since Ada identifiers cannot begin with, have two consecutive or end
> with an underscore, there's no problem at all.

The same is true of casing -- if you use sensible conventions, case
sensitivity doesn't damage talking.  Eg, you might have "the type FOO",
and "the variable foo".

I still think case sensitivity is error prone.

> Note that this issue transcend programming languages and goes up to
> the more general human-computer interface field. ...

Reminds of a user-interface I heard of that used the C convention, where
an integer literal starting with "0" is octal.  It's bad enough in a
programming language, but to foist that on unsuspecting (non-programmer)
users is pretty horrible.

- Bob




  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-16  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-09  0:00 Three simple questions Frank Christiny
2000-10-09  0:00 ` John McCabe
2000-10-09  0:00   ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00     ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-10-10  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-10  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-11  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-11  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-12  0:00                   ` The AI process (was: Three simple questions) Ted Dennison
2000-10-12  0:00                     ` Marc A. Criley
2000-10-12  0:00                       ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-16  0:00                   ` Three simple questions Robert A Duff
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-11  0:11       ` wv12
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  3:25           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00             ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` David Starner
2000-10-18  0:00                   ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-19  0:00                     ` David Starner
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                         ` David Starner
2000-10-23  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-28 11:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-28 10:56                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-28 10:57                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-21  0:00                       ` David Starner
2000-10-16  3:10               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                 ` The Ludwig Family
2000-10-16  0:00             ` James Hassett
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-11  0:00         ` David Gillon
2000-10-11  2:12         ` DuckE
2000-10-10  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-10  0:00       ` Case for case-sensitivity (Was: Three simple questions) Frank Christiny
2000-10-10  0:00         ` tmoran
2000-10-10  0:00         ` mjsilva
2000-10-10  0:00           ` John Magness
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2000-10-10  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-10  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-10-12  0:00           ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00         ` dmitry6243
2000-10-11  0:00         ` John English
2000-10-11  0:00           ` Frank Christiny
2000-10-12  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-14  0:00             ` nickerson
2000-10-15  1:48               ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-15  0:00                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-10-11  4:39         ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-10  0:47   ` Three simple questions Larry Elmore
2000-10-10  1:16     ` Ed Falis
2000-10-11  3:47       ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-13  0:00         ` Philippe Torres
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-10-10  0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-10-11  3:59   ` Jeff Carter
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-10  0:42 ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-12  1:05   ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  3:28         ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Bjarne Bäckström
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Anders Wirzenius
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Simon Wright
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
2000-10-13  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-13  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
     [not found]         ` <39EAEEEA.4F58C47C@cepsz.unizar.es>
2000-10-16  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-10-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-16  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-16  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2000-10-17  0:43                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-10-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-17  0:00                     ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-03  7:24                   ` E. E. Cummings (was Re: Three simple questions) Robert I. Eachus
2000-10-17  0:00               ` Three simple questions Keith Thompson
2000-10-17  0:00             ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-14  0:37       ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-14  0:00   ` Richard Kenner
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
2000-10-14  0:00     ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-16  0:00       ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2000-10-16  0:00         ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-17  0:00           ` Ronald Cole
2000-10-17  0:00         ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-11  0:00 ` Larry Hazel
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