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From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Y21C Bug
Date: 2000/01/06
Date: 2000-01-06T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wcc66x7w220.fsf@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 852dt0$vdl$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> writes:

> 1. The ability to declare very large areas of memory with
> commit-on-use semantics. There are many uses of this. I have
> the feeling that a lot of programmers still don't understand
> commit-on-use.

Commit on use is indeed very cool.

Do you know which operating systems support it?

> 2. The ability to map file systems into virtual memory.

When I first used a virtual memory system (32-bit address space), I
thought mapping files memory into was obviously the "right" way to do
all disk I/O.  At the time, the notion that a file might be too big to
fit seemed ludicrous.  Nowadays some people really do want to create
files bigger than 4G.

But it really *can* work in a 64-bit address space.

On the other hand, if I'm writing a program that creates a lot of
records in the heap pointing at one another, then a large portion of the
data is actually addresses, and I'm not sure I want to double the size
of *all* my addresses (thus almost doubling the size of all my data).
The folks who say "memory is cheap" are wrong: using more memory usually
costs more time (eg increases cache misses), and *time* is not cheap.

- Bob




  reply	other threads:[~2000-01-06  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-01-02  0:00 Y21C Bug reason67
2000-01-02  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-03  0:00   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-03  0:00     ` Jeff Creem
2000-01-03  0:00       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-03  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-04  0:00       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-04  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-05  0:00           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-06  0:00               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-06  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-06  0:00               ` Richard D Riehle
2000-01-06  0:00               ` Georg Bauhaus
2000-01-06  0:00                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-05  0:00             ` Al Christians
2000-01-06  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-06  0:00               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-06  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-06  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2000-01-06  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-07  0:00                     ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-07  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-07  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-04  0:00                           ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-04  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
2000-02-04  0:00                               ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-11  0:00                         ` Mats Weber
2000-01-11  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-12  0:00                             ` Mats Weber
2000-01-12  0:00                               ` Thierry Lelegard
2000-01-13  0:00                                 ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-13  0:00                                   ` Thierry Lelegard
2000-01-13  0:00                                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-13  0:00                                 ` Mats Weber
     [not found]                               ` <387dfb1e.cbbf14c7@mail.com>
2000-01-13  0:00                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-11  0:00                     ` Mats Weber
2000-01-07  0:00                   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-01-07  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-04  0:00         ` Samuel Tardieu
2000-01-04  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
2000-01-04  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-04  0:00         ` Charles Hixson
2000-01-04  0:00           ` Keith Thompson
2000-01-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-05  0:00             ` Y21C Bug :-) Charles Hixson
2000-01-06  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-07  0:00                 ` Keith Thompson
2000-01-07  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
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