From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Text_IO, was: Re: Something I don't understand
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:30:05 -0500
Date: 2014-02-19T17:30:05-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wcc4n3u4txu.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bmk6e7Ft1rhU1@mid.individual.net
Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> writes:
> On 14-02-19 17:06 , Robert A Duff wrote:
>> Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> My notion of type "Text" is an internal representation of text meant for
>>> human reading and viewing. I don't see any logical need for making this
>>> type a class; there would be only one predefined (and private) type.
>>
>> How is your notion of Text different from (say) HTML?
>
> Because "Text" is an internal form with a hidden implementation.
>
>> Or an internal tree-ish representation of HTML?
>
> More or less. Think "abstract syntax tree" instead of "concrete language
> sentence". Or "Document Object Model".
So what you're asking for is an Ada binding to HTML (or to
Postscript, or something).
>> Anyway, I'd say your notion of Text has nothing to do with Text_IO,
>> which is about plain unformatted text. Originally 7-bit ASCII.
>
> Yes, Text_IO is about plain unformatted text, except for "typewriter
> formatting" with column, line, and page controls.
Right, what I meant is that if your notion of Text were added
to Ada, it should not replace Text_IO. There's still a need for
simple I/O of simple sequences of characters.
What Text_IO SHOULD be about is plain text. I'd get rid of the
page-related stuff, and I'd get rid of the line and column counters
-- we don't need that level of "formatting".
Of course, I'm just criticizing the design. I'm not suggesting that
it should be changed now. It should have been changed in 1979.
Compatibility rules!
> The discussion was about how to improve the text (output) facilities of
> Ada. The abstract "Text" structure is one suggestion. But it should
> perhaps be called something else, to avoid confusing Ada.Text_IO with
> Ada.Text.IO :-) Anyway, I'm not suggesting "Text" input, only "Text" output.
Understood.
- Bob
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2014-02-13 23:57 Something I don't understand Laurent
2014-02-14 0:18 ` adambeneschan
2014-02-14 7:05 ` Charles H. Sampson
2014-02-15 15:27 ` Laurent
2014-02-15 19:10 ` Laurent
2014-02-15 20:05 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-15 21:16 ` Laurent
2014-02-15 21:40 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-02-16 1:39 ` Robert A Duff
2014-02-16 9:08 ` Text_IO, was: " Simon Clubley
2014-02-16 9:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-16 16:57 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-02-16 16:17 ` Robert A Duff
2014-02-17 12:52 ` Simon Clubley
2014-02-17 15:32 ` G.B.
2014-02-17 15:35 ` G.B.
2014-02-17 17:34 ` Mike H
2014-02-17 16:59 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-17 17:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-17 17:42 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-17 19:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-18 7:14 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-18 8:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-18 9:00 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-18 9:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-19 8:36 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-19 9:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-19 13:20 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-19 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-19 15:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-02-19 16:32 ` Laurent
2014-02-19 17:46 ` Simon Clubley
2014-02-20 2:39 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-02-20 11:44 ` G.B.
2014-02-19 21:45 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-20 9:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-20 18:19 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-19 15:06 ` Robert A Duff
2014-02-19 17:03 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-19 22:30 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2014-02-17 18:13 ` Simon Clubley
2014-02-17 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-18 7:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-02-18 8:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-17 20:22 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-18 0:50 ` Simon Clubley
2014-02-18 6:56 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-18 8:04 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-02-19 22:01 ` Robert A Duff
2014-02-20 8:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-20 15:54 ` Robert A Duff
2014-02-20 17:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-02-20 20:45 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-19 21:52 ` Robert A Duff
2014-02-20 0:50 ` Simon Clubley
2014-02-19 21:46 ` Robert A Duff
2014-02-20 0:09 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-02-20 1:09 ` Simon Clubley
2014-02-20 7:06 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-20 13:05 ` Simon Clubley
2014-02-20 11:51 ` G.B.
2014-02-20 12:53 ` Simon Clubley
2014-02-21 11:50 ` Brian Drummond
2014-02-23 21:37 ` AdaMagica
2014-02-23 23:23 ` Bill Findlay
2014-02-24 4:29 ` AdaMagica
2014-02-24 12:22 ` Brian Drummond
2014-02-24 19:03 ` AdaMagica
2014-02-20 20:02 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-02-19 21:15 ` Robert A Duff
2014-02-19 22:01 ` Simon Clubley
2014-02-16 14:50 ` Mike H
2014-02-17 16:09 ` Laurent
2014-02-17 17:42 ` Mike H
2014-02-18 1:05 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-02-17 22:31 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-02-19 12:51 ` Laurent
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