From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: What is the warning about builtin-function on gcc-4.6.0 ?
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:35:27 -0400
Date: 2011-03-29T14:35:27-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wcc39m5u64w.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: imrfku$1r0$1@munin.nbi.dk
"Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> writes:
> "Robert A Duff" <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message
> news:wccsju8fptr.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com...
>> But "EQUAL (ABS I, I)" can return False. The test calls FAILED
>> (twice) if it does, so the test is wrong.
>
> Doesn't that depend on the implementation of EQUAL? It's just a function
> call, it doesn't necessarily have the same semantics as "=". (I think the
> intent is that the result is the same as "=" for valid values, but I doubt
> anything is guaranteed about invalid values.)
>
> The actual implementation of EQUAL is full of recursion (it's intended to be
> an optimization blocker), and it's hard to tell whether or not one of the
> inner calls would cause some other results for invalid values (such as
> raising Constraint_Error).
>
> And if it didn't do that, the implementor could change the function to
> include 'Valid on the operands to ensure that they're not invalid.
Sure, EQUAL can raise C_E on invalid values.
But I don't think it can return True for invalid values
that are not mathematically equal. (If it can, I think it's
a mistake in the REPORT package.) I'm too lazy to inspect it
right now.
Has EQUAL changed since Ada 83 days? Just curious.
> I suspect that there are lot of tests that might fail if the rules for valid
> values are taken to the limit -- any test that intentionally raises an
> exception is always at risk for optimization problems (and that is what
> 13.9.1 is ultimately about).
Yes, and I'll bet an agressive implementation of 11.6 would find some
wrong ACATS tests.
- Bob
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-26 6:32 What is the warning about builtin-function on gcc-4.6.0 ? ytomino
2011-03-26 8:45 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-26 9:13 ` ytomino
2011-03-26 9:43 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-26 10:07 ` ytomino
2011-03-26 10:24 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-26 15:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-26 21:36 ` ytomino
2011-03-27 9:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-26 14:50 ` Simon Wright
2011-03-26 15:50 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-26 16:32 ` Simon Wright
2011-03-26 17:02 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-26 17:48 ` Simon Wright
2011-03-26 18:48 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-27 2:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-27 8:37 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-27 16:41 ` Robert A Duff
2011-03-27 17:21 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-27 17:56 ` Robert A Duff
2011-03-27 16:51 ` Robert A Duff
2011-03-27 17:05 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-27 17:14 ` Robert A Duff
2011-03-29 2:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-29 18:35 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2011-03-29 23:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-30 1:02 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-03-30 12:57 ` Robert A Duff
2011-03-30 14:41 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-03-30 18:39 ` Robert A Duff
2011-03-30 19:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-26 21:58 ` ytomino
2011-03-26 22:00 ` Florian Weimer
2011-03-26 22:22 ` anon
2011-03-26 22:36 ` ytomino
2011-03-27 12:00 ` anon
2011-03-27 18:50 ` ytomino
2011-03-27 23:35 ` anon
2011-03-27 23:42 ` anon
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