From: Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: Concatenation and Characters
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:48:38 GMT
Date: 2002-10-22T14:48:38+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wcc1y6ih6m1.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3DB4C9C4.1070003@worldnet.att.net
Jim Rogers <jimmaureenrogers@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> One of the reasons default initialization is difficult for numerics
> in Ada is because Ada allows you to define your own numeric types.
> This means that the language cannot assume any particular value is
> always a correct value for any numeric type.
True. In fact, what would you like as the default initial value of
this:
X: Integer range 1..0;
?
> Note that the 'Valid attribute can be checked before accessing any
> variable. This attribute returns TRUE when the variable contains a
> valid value and FALSE when the variable contains an invalid value.
Not "any variable" -- it doesn't work for composite types.
Anyway, 'Valid is irrelevant to the problem of uninitialized variables.
It's silly to check 'Valid of all your variables -- much easier to
make sure they are initialized properly. 'Valid is for validating input
data, not for detecting program bugs.
By the way, it's interesting that a pre-1983 version of Ada (or maybe it
was called Green then) required run-time detection of uses of
uninitialized variables -- an exception was raised. I presume they got
rid of that because of concerns about run-time speed (or lack of it).
I think that was a mistake: you could always use pragma Suppress if you
need the speed. This decision (the trade-off between the debugging aid
and speed) should be in the hands of the programmer, not the language
designer.
Another issue with run-time detection is that it sometimes requires
extra bits to be allocated, which might mess up representations
(e.g., if you're interfacing to hardware).
- Bob
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-10 14:50 Concatenation and Characters Justin Birtwell
2002-10-10 14:55 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-10 15:04 ` Justin Birtwell
2002-10-10 15:22 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-10 15:30 ` Justin Birtwell
2002-10-10 16:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-10 16:07 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-10 17:45 ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-10 15:32 ` Justin Birtwell
2002-10-10 15:36 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-10 16:44 ` Mark Biggar
2002-10-10 17:45 ` Stephen Leake
2002-10-10 21:53 ` Mark Biggar
2002-10-18 17:03 ` Programmer Dude
2002-10-18 18:13 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-18 18:36 ` Wes Groleau
2002-10-21 15:16 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-18 21:33 ` Mark Biggar
2002-10-20 2:01 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-10-21 14:13 ` Wes Groleau
2002-10-21 15:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-21 19:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-22 22:15 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-10-22 12:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-22 12:19 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-10-22 14:43 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-23 8:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-23 14:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-24 8:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-21 16:50 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-10-21 15:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-21 17:51 ` Programmer Dude
2002-10-21 18:48 ` Jim Rogers
2002-10-21 19:44 ` tmoran
2002-10-21 20:42 ` Programmer Dude
2002-10-22 1:42 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-22 14:37 ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-22 18:51 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-23 7:01 ` Pascal Obry
2002-10-22 14:45 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-22 18:47 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-22 21:31 ` Robert A Duff
[not found] ` <3DB59D75.20609 <wccd6q29n3l.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>
2002-10-23 2:02 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-23 13:16 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-23 19:11 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-23 15:24 ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-23 19:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-24 0:33 ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-22 3:46 ` Jim Rogers
2002-10-22 14:48 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
2002-10-22 15:02 ` Fraser Wilson
2002-10-22 15:38 ` David C. Hoos
2002-10-22 15:44 ` Fraser Wilson
2002-10-22 16:13 ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-23 8:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-23 9:08 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-10-23 9:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-23 10:10 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-10-23 17:15 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-10-24 8:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-24 9:25 ` Fraser Wilson
2002-10-24 14:13 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <un <wcc7kgazc20.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>
2002-10-22 16:46 ` David C. Hoos
2002-10-22 8:51 ` Stuart Palin
2002-10-22 18:56 ` Programmer Dude
2002-10-21 19:42 ` Georg Bauhaus
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-11 5:04 Grein, Christoph
2002-10-11 10:30 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-23 5:15 Grein, Christoph
2002-10-23 13:19 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-24 5:53 Grein, Christoph
2002-10-24 14:04 ` Matthew Heaney
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