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From: Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Ichbiah 2022 compiler mode
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 17:35:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vk6u92$10a5$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vk6tag$4tm1$1@dont-email.me>

On 21/12/2024 17:19, G.B. wrote:
> On 21.12.24 09:14, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> 
>>> Note that :
>>> 1. I have no statistics, but it seems to me that there is more variables
>>> than constants in my code.
>>
>> But how many of them *have* to be variables vs. the number that just are
>> because it is easier? I know I have a number of the latter.
>>
>>> 2. I say "Useless" from my coder point of view, I dont know if it 
>>> simplify
>>> the work for compiler or tools implementers.
>>
>> Constants do help the compiler generate better code, although a lot of 
>> the
>> benefits can be gained also by working harder. (That's what C 
>> compilers do,
>> after all.)
> 
> What are some compilers offering today? That is, can they find declarations
> of variables that could be constants, if so instructed?
> I am seeing some warnings about non-initialized variables for a meaningless
> mock-up, but not much else.  Ada, C++, Java.
> (Maybe there are options that I have missed. Or an analysis of a whole
> program yields more.)
> 
> function testc (b : Boolean) return Integer is
>     package P is
>       x : Integer;
>     end;
> begin
>    if b then
>       P.x := 42;
>    end if;
>    return P.x;
> end testc;
> 
> int testc(bool b) {
>     struct {
>       int x;
>     } P;
>     if (b) {
>       P.x = 42;
>     }
>     return P.x;
> }
> 
> class testc {
>    class P {
>      int x;
>    }
>    P P;
>    int $(boolean b) {
>      if (b) {
>         P.x = 42;
>      }
>      return P.x;
>    }
> }
> 

My understanding is that many compliers will optimise these, and if 
trivial numbers will 'optimise' out the variable. Confusing in the debugger!

-- 
Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-21 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-05 11:52 Ichbiah 2022 compiler mode Kevin Chadwick
2024-09-05 13:40 ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-09-05 13:49   ` Bill Findlay
2024-09-05 19:22     ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-09-05 14:05   ` Kevin Chadwick
2024-09-05 16:08   ` Kevin Chadwick
2024-09-05 19:24     ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-09-06  0:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-06  0:58   ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-12  4:39     ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-12 22:24       ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-14  6:18         ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-14  7:18           ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-06 21:22   ` Simon Wright
2024-09-07 17:13     ` Niklas Holsti
2024-09-07 20:34       ` Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
2024-09-12  4:46       ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-12  7:42         ` Niklas Holsti
2024-09-12  9:07           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-09-12 12:36           ` Kevin Chadwick
2024-09-12 15:43             ` Niklas Holsti
2024-09-13 20:45             ` Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
2024-09-12  9:04         ` J-P. Rosen
2024-09-12 11:35           ` Niklas Holsti
2024-09-14  6:13             ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-14  6:47               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-09-14  7:19               ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-14  8:12               ` Niklas Holsti
2024-12-20 23:26   ` Lioneldraghi
2024-12-21  8:14     ` Randy Brukardt
2024-12-21  9:50       ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-12-24  1:00         ` Randy Brukardt
2024-12-21 17:19       ` G.B.
2024-12-21 17:35         ` Chris Townley [this message]
2024-12-22 12:15         ` Simon Wright
2024-12-22 15:52           ` G.B.
2024-12-22 23:06             ` Simon Wright
2024-12-24  1:03         ` Randy Brukardt
2024-12-21 21:26       ` Keith Thompson
2024-12-22  9:32         ` Pascal Obry
2024-12-21  0:52   ` Lioneldraghi
2024-12-21  8:19     ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-06 11:07 ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-09-06 20:26   ` Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
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