what a tease!

what a tease!

[Dale Stanbrough]

Robert Dewar mentions that gnat 3.14p is coming out soon, with
a backend that is merged with the normal C distributions. He 
stops posting to c.l.a., and then nothing!

The suspense is killing me :-)


Dale (who wants to see the ACT approach to CGI progamming)

Re: what a tease!

[Florian Weimer]

Dale Stanbrough <dale@cs.rmit.edu.au> writes:

> Robert Dewar mentions that gnat 3.14p is coming out soon, with
> a backend that is merged with the normal C distributions. He 
> stops posting to c.l.a., and then nothing!

Well, I doubt that GNAT 3.14p will be based on mainline GCC because
after the supported version was released, ACT still was working on the
integration (according to some post on the GCC mailing list).

Robert Dewar disappeared from c.l.a. probably because Deja was closed
down.

> Dale (who wants to see the ACT approach to CGI progamming)

Me too.

Re: what a tease!

[Britt Snodgrass]

I have seen the GNAT 3.14a we received earlier this month.  It still
uses gcc 2.8.1
gcc 2.95.3 was released March 16 but gcc 3.0 is apparently still a work
in progress.

Britt

Florian Weimer wrote:
> 
> Dale Stanbrough <dale@cs.rmit.edu.au> writes:
> 
> > Robert Dewar mentions that gnat 3.14p is coming out soon, with
> > a backend that is merged with the normal C distributions. He
> > stops posting to c.l.a., and then nothing!
> 
> Well, I doubt that GNAT 3.14p will be based on mainline GCC because
> after the supported version was released, ACT still was working on the
> integration (according to some post on the GCC mailing list).
> 
> Robert Dewar disappeared from c.l.a. probably because Deja was closed
> down.
> 
> > Dale (who wants to see the ACT approach to CGI progamming)
> 
> Me too.

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Re: what a tease!

[Gautier de Montmollin]

> I have seen the GNAT 3.14a we received earlier this month.  It still
> uses gcc 2.8.1
> gcc 2.95.3 was released March 16 but gcc 3.0 is apparently still a work
> in progress.

Maybe it is a good thing not to follow the latest GCC - there are observed
problems about performance of optimisation since 2.95. 
A better thing is to consolidate GNAT, and I think this is the priority
at ACT.
E.g. an optional (say with -EE for binder) automatic appending of
display of GNAT.Traceback.Symbolic for main procedure and package
initialisations would be cool, thus obtaining the same debugging
features as what you find by default with Compaq Ada while keeping
sources portable.

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Re: what a tease!

[Nicolas Brunot]

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A gnat supported user confirmed that gnat 3.14a is still based on gcc 2.8.1
So I doubt this is going to change for 3.14p

gcc 2.95.3 was just released last week, and some proposals are made for a
2.95.4
gcc 3.0 seems to be delayed, and not expected before july 2001.

Since gnat will probably be based on gcc 3.0 and not gcc 2.95, you'd better
be patient ...

Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> a �crit dans le message :
871yrsy7gk.fsf@deneb.enyo.de...
> Dale Stanbrough <dale@cs.rmit.edu.au> writes:
>
> > Robert Dewar mentions that gnat 3.14p is coming out soon, with
> > a backend that is merged with the normal C distributions. He
> > stops posting to c.l.a., and then nothing!
>
> Well, I doubt that GNAT 3.14p will be based on mainline GCC because
> after the supported version was released, ACT still was working on the
> integration (according to some post on the GCC mailing list).
>
> Robert Dewar disappeared from c.l.a. probably because Deja was closed
> down.
>
> > Dale (who wants to see the ACT approach to CGI progamming)
>
> Me too.
>

Re: what a tease!

[Laurent Guerby]

GNAT 3.14 (customer testing) is still based on 2.8.1.

In <http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2001-03/msg00719.html>, Robert Dewar said:
> [...] (indeed we are just about through quite a big effort of making
> sure that the new GNAT sources do not generate warnings with -Wall,
> and finishing this off, which is a day away from being complete, was
> the last remaining job to be done before we put the sources at
> gnu.org.

I think it was decided that the commit will be done on the CVS trunk,
so GCC 3.0 should not have Ada, but GCC 3.1 will.

-- 
Laurent Guerby <guerby@acm.org>

Re: what a tease!

[Florian Weimer]

Laurent Guerby <guerby@acm.org> writes:

> I think it was decided that the commit will be done on the CVS trunk,
> so GCC 3.0 should not have Ada, but GCC 3.1 will.

Yes, anything else would probably affect the GCC 3.0 release plan in a
negative way.  I don't think they are prepared to merge in a frontend
at this stage of development.

Re: what a tease!

[Kent Paul Dolan]

> Robert Dewar disappeared from c.l.a. probably because Deja was closed
> down.

I ran into similar difficulties when the news feed for my ISP folded, and
the ISP chose not to find another.

Turns out there are a _lot_ of other ways to post and read, they just
aren't easy to encounter.  Google picked up what deja dropped, and has
plans to put the whole deja archive back online instead of a most
recent 18 mont's worth as deja degraded to toward the end, though
posting from Google isn't implemented yet.

More important, in a pure burst of gentlebeingness, Google provides a
list of its best competitors in ways to read and post Usenet news via
the web:

http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Usenet/Web_Based/

Now if some kind soul who has Robert's current email address could pass
that along to him, we can see the grumpiness quotient here restored to
its previous long-sustained levels.

As the fairly bearable footer appended to this note will show, I'm
using www.mailgate.org in Italy as my reading tool and posting via
email tool of choice for now, though the European Ada group's special
purpose c.l.a gateway would probably be preferred by most as a way to
post here.

Cheers!

xanthian.
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Re: what a tease!

[Ted Dennison]

In article <200103311850.KAA06623@well.com>, Kent Paul Dolan says...
>
>> Robert Dewar disappeared from c.l.a. probably because Deja was closed
>> down.
>
>I ran into similar difficulties when the news feed for my ISP folded, and
>the ISP chose not to find another.
..
>Now if some kind soul who has Robert's current email address could pass
>that along to him, we can see the grumpiness quotient here restored to
>its previous long-sustained levels.

It could be that he has purposely not looked for a new access method, to save
himself a few hours a day of Usenet responding....

>As the fairly bearable footer appended to this note will show, I'm
>using www.mailgate.org in Italy as my reading tool and posting via
>email tool of choice for now, though the European Ada group's special

I was up within 1 hour using Newsranger, whis has proven satisfactory for my
uses. My only real complaint with it is that the posting engine uses
InternetExploder-specific tags, thus rendering it unsable from any other
browser. That forces me to keep both IE and Mozilla running simultaniously. :-(

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Re: what a tease!

[Dmitry Kazakov]

On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:39:39 GMT, Ted Dennison<dennison@telepath.com>
wrote:

>It could be that he has purposely not looked for a new access method, to save
>himself a few hours a day of Usenet responding....

It is a great loss for c.l.a. I hope that we'll hear him (Robert
Dewar) again.

Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov

Re: what a tease!

[Pascal Obry]

Dale Stanbrough <dale@cs.rmit.edu.au> writes:

> Robert Dewar mentions that gnat 3.14p is coming out soon, with
> a backend that is merged with the normal C distributions. He 
> stops posting to c.l.a., and then nothing!

Can't remember that. Last time Robert says that merging with GCC will
be done after 3.14...

> Dale (who wants to see the ACT approach to CGI progamming)

What do you mean by that ? What is this "CGI" programming stuff you
are talking about ?

Pascal.

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Re: what a tease!

[DuckE]

"Dale Stanbrough" <dale@cs.rmit.edu.au> wrote in message
news:dale-63DE03.20325420032001@m2.bigpond.net.au...
> Robert Dewar mentions that gnat 3.14p is coming out soon, with
> a backend that is merged with the normal C distributions. He
> stops posting to c.l.a., and then nothing!
>
> The suspense is killing me :-)
>
>
> Dale (who wants to see the ACT approach to CGI progamming)

If you want to follow the progress of GCC 3.0, you can follow the GCC
mailing list archive at http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/

I've been watching it for a while now. I find this list somewhat interesting
to follow.  Reading about all of the hosts and targets that have to be
working in order to make a release, it is amazing how well things work.

From what I can tell GNAT isn't the hold up on having a public release of
GNAT based on GCC 3.x.  As I recall ACT chose to defer adding GNAT to GCC
until 3.1 in order to avoid the risk of causing any delays in the 3.0
release.

SteveD