From: "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr>
Subject: Re: Ichbiah 2022 compiler mode
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 11:04:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <vbuarq$64hr$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vbtrmo$34n9$1@dont-email.me>
Le 12/09/2024 à 06:46, Randy Brukardt a écrit :
> I was (of course) presuming that "tasklets" would get those capabilities if
> they were to replace tasks. That's what I meant about "suspension", which is
> not currently allowed for threads in Ada (parallel code is not allowed to
> call potentially blocking operations). If that was changed, then all forms
> of existing task communication would be allowed.
Well, tasks are not only for speeding up code. They can be a very useful
design tool (active objects, independant activities). I think the Ada
model is clean and simple, I would hate to see it disappear.
> I'm less certain about the value of priorities, most of the time, they don't
> help writing correct Ada code. (You still need all of the protections
> against race conditions and the like.) I do realize that they are a natural
> way to express constraints on a program. So I admit I don't know in this
> area, in particular if there are things that priorities are truly required
> for.
If you had as many cores as tasks, you would not need priorities.
Priorities are just optimization on how to manage cores when there are
not enough of them.
I know that people use priorities to guarantee mutual exclusion, and
other properties. All these algorithms were designed at the time of
mono-CPU machines, but they fail on multi-cores. Nowadays, relying on
priorities for anything else than optimization is bad -and dangerous-
design.
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-05 11:52 Ichbiah 2022 compiler mode Kevin Chadwick
2024-09-05 13:40 ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-09-05 13:49 ` Bill Findlay
2024-09-05 19:22 ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-09-05 14:05 ` Kevin Chadwick
2024-09-05 16:08 ` Kevin Chadwick
2024-09-05 19:24 ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-09-06 0:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-06 0:58 ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-12 4:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-12 22:24 ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-14 6:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-14 7:18 ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-06 21:22 ` Simon Wright
2024-09-07 17:13 ` Niklas Holsti
2024-09-07 20:34 ` Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
2024-09-12 4:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-12 7:42 ` Niklas Holsti
2024-09-12 9:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-09-12 12:36 ` Kevin Chadwick
2024-09-12 15:43 ` Niklas Holsti
2024-09-13 20:45 ` Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
2024-09-12 9:04 ` J-P. Rosen [this message]
2024-09-12 11:35 ` Niklas Holsti
2024-09-14 6:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2024-09-14 6:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-09-14 7:19 ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-09-14 8:12 ` Niklas Holsti
2024-09-06 11:07 ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-09-06 20:26 ` Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
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